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I want to put some things into perspective for people to pinpoint their search and the realities of Indigenous ancestry in particular Cherokee, regardless of what an ancestry DNA test says. If you are 0% Native American or 100%.......Can you trace your ancestry to the Cherokee people?
The many people which claim "Cherokee" cannot localize which Nation they descend from. With proper research, one should be able to definitively state which federal tribe they originate from. After all, most all Cherokee descend from three groups.
There are three federally recognized nations of Cherokee people. They are distinct, are separate tribes with separate governments and constitutions, though they are all the “Principle” people, the Cherokee.
1. The United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians - Today in Oklahoma
2. The Cherokee Nation - Today in Oklahoma
3. The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians - original homeland North Carolina, Qualla Boundary
Cherokee original homelands were Western North Carolina, Western South Carolina, Eastern Tennessee and Kentucky, though areas were mainly hunting grounds like Kentucky. Cherokee had been forced to cede lands which vastly shrank to small territories and were eventually localized into NE Georgia, NW Alabama and Western NC. If your ancestor(s) lived along Cherokee territory at some point does not = I have a Cherokee ancestor. If you have no ancestry from these areas at all, rethink the tribe and do proper research.
These are the only three nations of Cherokee which are “treaty” tribes which Cherokee people have been recorded by the federal government. There are many pseudo Cherokee tribes. However, Indigenous ancestry let alone Cherokee specifically are unable to be confirmed as claims are usually anecdotal. Beliefs and customs are often imitated, taken from New Age beliefs and other Indian tribes but are not core practices of the Cherokee.
The Indian Removal Act (Trail of Tears 1831-1850) affected The Five Civilized Tribes of the American Southeast. The Chickasaw, Choctaw, Seminoles, Muskogee (Creek) and Cherokee (Tsalagi).
The Cherokee forced removal stared in 1838 and removed the Cherokee Nation to then Indian Territory (Oklahoma). The Keetoowah started to Arkansas as early as 1790 prior to the forced removal which the tribe eventually relocated to Indian Territory. The Eastern Band of Cherokee today remain today on the Qualla Boundary in North Western Carolina.
You will hear many myths of ancestry coming from the Trail of Tears and other. To name a few;
My great, great grandma was dropped off with a White family during the trail of tears.
Cherokee families lived in Clans. If a Cherokee woman had died during the trail of tears, other Cherokee women or a clan mother would have cared for the child or children. They would not dispose of a Cherokee baby to White families or any other tribe.
When the Indian Removal was happening my ancestors hid.
Small, I mean small amounts of people hid or fled. Cherokee people stayed together during the trek out west. 300-400 hid in the mountains to avoid removal. These people would later become the core of the Eastern Band of Cherokee with a formed government in 1868 and recognized by the federal government.
Ones that took off and never returned to the tribe, was even smaller and dangerous for them. Some of them would seek refuge with another tribe.
My ancestors refused to sign the Dawes Rolls.
The Cherokee people have been recorded on many rolls before and after the removal which preceded the Dawes. Many people are of the assumption that if they do not find an ancestor on the infamous Dawes Rolls, they have no Cherokee ancestor(s) or a good excuse not to document one. You may need to go back onto additional rolls. Cherokee people, when confirmed on a roll, prior rolls were used for confirmation to tribal affiliation.
Church records burned in a fire or it was written in a Bible I can’t find.
Cherokee people were recorded on rolls with the nucleus of Cherokee people. These records still stand today. So I mention the below.
These are the rolls the Cherokee people were recorded on. If you believe your ancestor or ancestors were Cherokee and don’t find them on any of the rolls, it is however unfortunate you are unable to confirm direct ties to the tribe. Tracing ancestry is difficult to begin with, American Indian ancestry can be more difficult. Not considering the fact Indian Blood Myth stories are abundant in many families.
Here are rolls you can research, dates and Cherokee tribe for the roll. Some of these rolls may not be available online and you may need to contact the tribe for assistance.
Eastern Rolls - Cherokee East of the Mississippi
Reservation Rolls of 1817
Emigration Rolls of 1817
Henderson Roll of 1835
Mullay Roll of 1848
Siler Roll of 1851
Chapman Roll of 1852
Swetland Roll of 1869
Hester Roll of 1883
Churchill Roll of 1908
Baker Roll of 1924 - Final Rolls Eastern Band
Eastern portion of the Guion Miller Roll of 1909
Western – Cherokee Nation and Keetoowah
Old Settler Roll of 1851
Drennen Roll of 1852
Dawes Rolls of 1898-1914 Final Roll Nation and Keetoowah
Western portion of the Guion Miller Roll of 1909
Many claims that abound of Cherokee ancestry often revolves around a "phantom" Indian ancestor that "looked Indian" but cannot be connected to any documented Cherokee rolls, or American tribe.
Here are some pictures of full-blood Cherokee from the Eastern Band. Snow Bird community however small, which has full-blood and high quanta Indians are not found in the family photo album.
Only ancestors with stereotypes such as black hair and high cheeks are used to substantiate ancestry. In reality, black hair and high cheekbones are seen throughout many ethnic groups, even Europeans.
This is a list of a lot of old time diseases but I can't find anything that resembles what I thought that word looked like. So it probably doesn't being with an F. But it looks like a double L toward the middle.
From the my heritage users FB group showing they do not give premium DNA tools when you purchase their test, uploading and paying $29 is cheaper. You'll have to buy an expensive subscription plan to get it.
With a MyHeritage DNA Test you will receive the Ethnicity Estimate, DNA Matches, you can contact the DNA Managers via the DNA Matches, export the DNA Match list, use the Shared Ancestral surnames feature and use the chromosome browser. If you want to use all the power features of MyHeritage, including the additional advanced DNA features, a Complete Plan is a good choice. You can try the current 14-day free trial of the Complete Plan. And if you do not cancel it before the expiry date, you will receive a 50% discount.
If you do wish to cancel the free trial within the 14 days, you should log into your website, click on your name in the right upper corner > Site Settings > My purchases.
GEDmatch recently changed their upload opt in/ opt out policy
2 weeks ago I uploaded a cousins DNA to GEDmatch so that another cousin could play around and found they (the new owners) changed the upload settings. The old owners had it set so that when you uploaded, you were not opted into LE or John and Jane Doe matching. Now they have it set to opt you in. I copied what's on the main upload page, I'm glad I actually read the 2nd setting where it specifies except for kits identified as being uploaded by law enforcement representatives because the 1st one doesn't mention LE or Doe uploads. They should have the words bolded like I do but sadly, they do not.
Select one of the following privacy options for this kit:
This kit will be shown in match results for all other kits in the database. The operators of GEDmatch encourage everybody to select this option unless they have specific reasons not to. Opt-in
This kit will be shown in match results for all other kits in the database, except for kits identified as being uploaded by law enforcement representatives. Opt-out
That's incredible. Was that a transfer of raw data from Ancestry to My Heritage?
Thanks for commenting, I meant to post it in another thread, couldn't figure out if I even posted it the other day lol
Yeah, follow the directions in this post, scroll to now to the DNA to download your RAW data then see this newer post to make an account at my heritage to upload for free family matching. The newer post details what you get for free and the extra tools you get for $29 which is very worth it. My Heritage is world wide so you may get matches in other countries. It's very neat
You can also upload free to FTDNA for family matching but they allow LE (law enforcement) to upload crime DNA and opt us in when we turn on family matching. It has to be turned off in settings. The directions are in the 1st link. I need to rewrite the thread but all of the companies keep going thru changes
How to access and download your autosomal DNA results from AncestryDNA once you're ready to upload to other sites.
1. Navigate to the Ancestry.com website homepage.
2. In the upper-right corner, click Sign In to display the sign in window.
3. In the Username or email field, enter your username or email.
4. In the Password field, enter your password.
5. Click Sign In. Your Ancestry home page is displayed.
6. On the menu bar, click DNA > Your DNA Results Summary. The AncestryDNA home page is displayed.
7. On the right side of the page, click Settings. Your Test Settings page is displayed.
8. Scroll to the bottom of the page to Actions.
9. Under Actions you'll see Download DNA Data. Download a .zip file of your DNA data. Click Download. The Download your raw DNA data window is displayed.
10. Enter your password in the password field and click I understand that after my DNA data is downloaded, the downloaded copy will not be protected by AncestryDNA's security measures. When I download my DNA, I assume all risk of storing, securing, and protecting my downloaded data (they're trying to discourage you from downloading YOUR OWN DNA
11. Click Confirm. A window saying Almost there. Check your email is displayed.
12. Check your email for an email from AncestryDNA with the subject line Your request to download AncestryDNA raw data.
13. In the email, click Confirm Data Download. You will be redirected to the Ancestry.com website.
14. Enter your username or email and password in the appropriate fields, and click Sign In. The Download DNA Raw Data page is displayed.
15. Click Download DNA Raw Data to download your raw data file. Note where you save the file on your computer
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Saving your Ancestry tree to save to your computer as a backup and to upload to other sites.
On Ancestry's main page, click Trees, you'll see Create and manage trees at the bottom. Click create and manage trees which brings you to your page where all of your trees are. Find the tree you want to back up, on the very right of the page it says Tree Settings, click tree settings. There's a box on the right, you'll see home person, who you are,, hint press and manage your tree, export your family tree data, as a GEDCOM file, to your computer. Click export tree. It will take a few seconds but it will turn to a green button with download your GEDCOM file. Navigate to your family tree folder in your documents. I normally make a folder Ancestry, another for Tree Backups, then will make a folder that has the name of the tree, I have 10 trees here lol.. The file will save with Last name Family Tree, I add the date to the file name.
If you want to see trees that someone else owns that you've been 8nvited to, you can see those listed where you found the tree settings to get the GEFCOM file.
Family Tree Sites and GEDcom Files - Back up your family tree to upload to other sites
Ancestry - go to your family tree, next click the name of your tree in the top left corner, you'll see tree settings, click on it. On the right side you'll see a white box with Your home person in this tree; Your home person in this tree; Hint preferences; Manage your tree - Export your family tree data, as a GEDCOM file, to your computer, the GEDcom download will take a few seconds to generate.
My Heritage - Go to your profile, At the top it says home, family tree, discoveries, DNA, photos, research; mouse over family tree you'll see import GEDcom and manage trees, click manage trees, on the far right under actions you'll see export to GEDcom. My Heritage is limited with free family tree accounts. I have 203 people in my tree, it's telling me I have reached the maximum and will have to pay to add more people.
Now to the DNA
23 and me - Accessing your Raw Data - 23 and me will give you warnings about how your DNA will not be secure once you download it. They try to scare people from downloading their results. You'll be uploading it to My Heritage who will also keep your data secure. If you have any questions, ask either in the thread or DM me.
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You can access your raw genetic data within your 23andMe account one of three ways:
Click on Resource in the footer at the bottom of your homepage, and select Browse Raw Data from the available resources.
Visit your Account Settings and click on “View” under 23andMe Data. You will see a blue “Download Raw Data” button which will redirect you to the download raw data page.
The main view of the Browse Raw Data feature shows the same pictorial representation of each chromosome — including a Y chromosome — for all users. It is important to note that except in rare genetic cases, women do not inherit a Y chromosome and will see “not determined” for markers found on the Y chromosome.
Downloading Your Raw Data - To download your raw data, click on the Download tab from within the top navigation bar within the Browse Raw Data feature and scroll down until you see the "Submit request" button. You will receive an email to the email address associated with your 23andMe account when your raw data download file is ready. Typically files are ready within 1 hour.
2. FTDNA actually has two menus to help you navigate their site. You can access your raw data from your landing page which is the home link on the top left. Once on the home page, under your Family Finder results, it says download data next to matches, my origins and matrix.
or from the FTNDA top menu after you have logged in, you'll see Home, myDNA. Click myDNA, mouse over family finder, at the bottom it says download RAW DNA.
3. In the download menu you want to choose Build 37. Click on the arrow and the file will be downloaded to your default download folder. You will need to download the main file as well as the X chromosome file. Don't try to open or rename it. You can later move it to a location where you will be able to easily find it.
How to access and download your autosomal DNA results from AncestryDNA once you're ready to upload to other sites.
1. Navigate to the Ancestry.com website homepage.
2. In the upper-right corner, click Sign In to display the sign in window.
3. In the Username or email field, enter your username or email.
4. In the Password field, enter your password.
5. Click Sign In. Your Ancestry home page is displayed.
6. On the menu bar, click DNA > Your DNA Results Summary. The AncestryDNA home page is displayed.
7. On the right side of the page, click Settings. Your Test Settings page is displayed.
8. Scroll to the bottom of the page to Actions.
9. Under Actions you'll see Download DNA Data. Download a .zip file of your DNA data. Click Download. The Download your raw DNA data window is displayed.
10. Enter your password in the password field and click I understand that after my DNA data is downloaded, the downloaded copy will not be protected by AncestryDNA's security measures. When I download my DNA, I assume all risk of storing, securing, and protecting my downloaded data (they're trying to discourage you from downloading YOUR OWN DNA
11. Click Confirm. A window saying Almost there. Check your email is displayed.
12. Check your email for an email from AncestryDNA with the subject line Your request to download AncestryDNA raw data.
13. In the email, click Confirm Data Download. You will be redirected to the Ancestry.com website.
14. Enter your username or email and password in the appropriate fields, and click Sign In. The Download DNA Raw Data page is displayed.
15. Click Download DNA Raw Data to download your raw data file. Note where you save the file on your computer
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My Heritage - Go to your profile, At the top it says home, family tree, discoveries, DNA, photos, research; mouse over family tree you'll see import GEDcom and manage trees, click manage trees, on the far right under actions you'll see export to GEDcom. My Heritage is limited with free family tree accounts. I have 203 people in my tree, it's telling me I have reached the maximum and will have to pay to add more people.
Now to the DNA
My Heritage DNA is normally $79 but it goes on sale for $49. Note, you can upload your DNA from another company for free family matching, exporting DNA matches, contacting matches and shared surnames of matches. For a fee of $29, you can unlock other features like ethnicity, family trees of matches, chromosome browser, shared DNA matches, shared ethnicities, shared ancestral places. They also offer theory of family relativity that tells how you match some people. There is also a AutoClusters for DNA Matches which is a pay feature.
MyHeritage subscribers who already have a Premium, PremiumPlus or Complete Subscription do NOT have to pay anything to unlock the extra features for uploaded DNA kits. They can upload as many kits as they want and enjoy all the premium features for all uploads.
Join My Heritage, upload your family tree GEDcom file. To upload your DNA from another company, go to your profile, you will see the DNA tab where you can upload your raw data. They're saying they will eventually be charging to upload raw data. To upload DNA to another person in your tree, find them on the tree then click their name, it will open a box on the left that has the link to upload.
My Heritage has also gotten into health testing for $199. I've seen it on sale for as low as $99. I have not done it so can not offer experience. When you click the health testing link you can read what they test for. Here is a blog post I found Navigating Your MyHeritage DNA Health Reports
If you're going to upload to My Heritage but you don't recognize any of your matches, consider messaging your Ancestry DNA matches to ask them to upload for free too. I have 2 cousins that helped me out, It's really helped me see how many are related thru my maternal grandmother. I'm able to click a common match and follow them to see if one of my cousins comes up. They offer so much more to find matches then Ancestry.
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From the my heritage users FB group showing they do not give premium DNA tools when you purchase their test, uploading and paying $29 is cheaper. You'll have to buy an expensive subscription plan to get it.
With a MyHeritage DNA Test you will receive the Ethnicity Estimate, DNA Matches, you can contact the DNA Managers via the DNA Matches, export the DNA Match list, use the Shared Ancestral surnames feature and use the chromosome browser. If you want to use all the power features of MyHeritage, including the additional advanced DNA features, a Complete Plan is a good choice. You can try the current 14-day free trial of the Complete Plan. And if you do not cancel it before the expiry date, you will receive a 50% discount.
If you do wish to cancel the free trial within the 14 days, you should log into your website, click on your name in the right upper corner > Site Settings > My purchases.
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My Heritage Blog where they tell you the latest features, sales and stories about people meeting family with DNA matches
Family Tree Sites and GEDcom Files - Back up your family tree to upload to other sites
Ancestry - go to your family tree, next click the name of your tree in the top left corner, you'll see tree settings, click on it. On the right side you'll see a white box with Your home person in this tree; Your home person in this tree; Hint preferences; Manage your tree - Export your family tree data, as a GEDCOM file, to your computer, the GEDcom download will take a few seconds to generate.
My Heritage - Go to your profile, At the top it says home, family tree, discoveries, DNA, photos, research; mouse over family tree you'll see import GEDcom and manage trees, click manage trees, on the far right under actions you'll see export to GEDcom. My Heritage is limited with free family tree accounts. I have 203 people in my tree, it's telling me I have reached the maximum and will have to pay to add more people.
Now to the DNA
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[url="https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/202907670-Accessing-your-Raw-Data"]23andme --- Accessing your Raw Data - 23 and me will give you warnings about how your DNA will not be secure once you download it. They try to scare people from downloading their results. You'll be uploading it to My Heritage who will also keep your data secure. If you have any questions, ask either in the thread or DM me.
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You can access your raw genetic data within your 23andMe account one of three ways:
Click on Resource in the footer at the bottom of your homepage, and select Browse Raw Data from the available resources.
Visit your Account Settings and click on “View” under 23andMe Data. You will see a blue “Download Raw Data” button which will redirect you to the download raw data page.
The main view of the Browse Raw Data feature shows the same pictorial representation of each chromosome — including a Y chromosome — for all users. It is important to note that except in rare genetic cases, women do not inherit a Y chromosome and will see “not determined” for markers found on the Y chromosome.
Downloading Your Raw Data - To download your raw data, click on the Download tab from within the top navigation bar within the Browse Raw Data feature and scroll down until you see the "Submit request" button. You will receive an email to the email address associated with your 23andMe account when your raw data download file is ready. Typically files are ready within 1 hour.
2. FTDNA actually has two menus to help you navigate their site. You can access your raw data from your landing page which is the home link on the top left. Once on the home page, under your Family Finder results, it says download data next to matches, my origins and matrix.
or from the FTNDA top menu after you have logged in, you'll see Home, myDNA. Click myDNA, mouse over family finder, at the bottom it says download RAW DNA.
3. In the download menu you want to choose Build 37. Click on the arrow and the file will be downloaded to your default download folder. You will need to download the main file as well as the X chromosome file. Don't try to open or rename it. You can later move it to a location where you will be able to easily find it.
Ancestry DNA - costs $99 plus $10 shipping. They do not allow uploads from other companies. Tests normally go on sale mothers and father's day, black Friday $69 and the Christmas holiday $79. I have a coupon code in my 1st post here I believe where it's $89 but you have to add the $10 shipping to it. It's very easy to buy more tests to add it to the people in your tree.
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How to access and download your autosomal DNA results from AncestryDNA once you're ready to upload to other sites.
1. Navigate to the Ancestry.com website homepage.
2. In the upper-right corner, click Sign In to display the sign in window.
3. In the Username or email field, enter your username or email.
4. In the Password field, enter your password.
5. Click Sign In. Your Ancestry home page is displayed.
6. On the menu bar, click DNA > Your DNA Results Summary. The AncestryDNA home page is displayed.
7. On the right side of the page, click Settings. Your Test Settings page is displayed.
8. Scroll to the bottom of the page to Actions.
9. Under Actions you'll see Download DNA Data. Download a .zip file of your DNA data. Click Download. The Download your raw DNA data window is displayed.
10. Enter your password in the password field and click I understand that after my DNA data is downloaded, the downloaded copy will not be protected by AncestryDNA's security measures. When I download my DNA, I assume all risk of storing, securing, and protecting my downloaded data (they're trying to discourage you from downloading YOUR OWN DNA
11. Click Confirm. A window saying Almost there. Check your email is displayed.
12. Check your email for an email from AncestryDNA with the subject line Your request to download AncestryDNA raw data.
13. In the email, click Confirm Data Download. You will be redirected to the Ancestry.com website.
14. Enter your username or email and password in the appropriate fields, and click Sign In. The Download DNA Raw Data page is displayed.
15. Click Download DNA Raw Data to download your raw data file. Note where you save the file on your computer
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