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My family must have missed the free days LOL....my parents pulled everyone from Catholic school once my oldest sister graduated 8th grade - they were tired of paying for classes of 40+ kids.
Catholics schools nowadays are full of teachers who not only do not have a masters but often don't even have a degree in education. My sister lives in upstate NY, she has never taught a day in her life before last year when she landed a job teaching math to middle schoolers. Most of her colleagues don't have a teaching degree and she's even got a couple co workers who aren't Catholic which would have been unheard of not that long ago.
That is not only true of Catholic schools, but of all Christian schools. I know someone with a BA in English who taught 11th and 12th grade English lit. at a conservative Lutheran HS in Centereach. All they cared about was that he was a graduate one of their denomination's LCMS colleges. He was never taught to teach and it was a second job.
Non-Denominational Christian Schools are even worse. L.E. Burkett Christian School in Center Moriches, Smithtown Christian Academy - what they care about is a "Christian World View".
I don't think the Catholic Schools are as bad. Or Long Island Lutheran. They may pay them a bit less and permit them to teach longer without the NYS requisite master's within five years.
But then, I was totally horrified to learn that my daughter's fifth grade teacher in the Three Village District was obtaining her master's online from none other than the University of Pheonix.
Part of the issue is location - all of the school districts in the area are excellent. Why would anyone living in Syosset, Jericho, Plainview, Half Hollow Hills, Cold Spring Harbor, etc. school districts send their kids to OLMA? And then if you’re from a further away town there’s probably better Catholic schools to consider- Kellenberg, Holy Trinity, St. Mary’s, St. Anthony’s. I see why enrollment declined so much.
That is not only true of Catholic schools, but of all Christian schools. I know someone with a BA in English who taught 11th and 12th grade English lit. at a conservative Lutheran HS in Centereach. All they cared about was that he was a graduate one of their denomination's LCMS colleges. He was never taught to teach and it was a second job.
Non-Denominational Christian Schools are even worse. L.E. Burkett Christian School in Center Moriches, Smithtown Christian Academy - what they care about is a "Christian World View".
I don't think the Catholic Schools are as bad. Or Long Island Lutheran. They may pay them a bit less and permit them to teach longer without the NYS requisite master's within five years.
But then, I was totally horrified to learn that my daughter's fifth grade teacher in the Three Village District was obtaining her master's online from none other than the University of Pheonix.
High schools probably are not as bad as grammar schools - parents have a certain expectation at the high school level. We sent my son to Catholic HS, it was life changing for him. One thing that always struck me at back to school nights was how much the teachers clearly loved teaching there - and were not constrained by any sort of state curriculum prescribing HOW to teach, or what test might be given at the end of the year.
I had two friends in college who went to OLM and last one semester. It was funny, they ended up on the same floor at college and were like "I feel like I know you...". Both were go getters and neither of them liked the "tone" at OLM.
Part of the issue is location - all of the school districts in the area are excellent. Why would anyone living in Syosset, Jericho, Plainview, Half Hollow Hills, Cold Spring Harbor, etc. school districts send their kids to OLMA? And then if you’re from a further away town there’s probably better Catholic schools to consider- Kellenberg, Holy Trinity, St. Mary’s, St. Anthony’s. I see why enrollment declined so much.
Bring back schools for "wayward" young women.
Or, better yet bring back convent (preferably cloistered) schools for girls/young women.
Either way pack em up, ship them out to Syosset and not let them back out until they graduate high school.
High schools probably are not as bad as grammar schools - parents have a certain expectation at the high school level. We sent my son to Catholic HS, it was life changing for him. One thing that always struck me at back to school nights was how much the teachers clearly loved teaching there - and were not constrained by any sort of state curriculum prescribing HOW to teach, or what test might be given at the end of the year.
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Some of the higher end schools got waivers from the state for exams. The state acknowledged that their comprehensive exams were more difficult than the State's version, so it would meet all academic criteria.
Private school teachers in turn loved this, since they could craft their own exams around the material and how it's taught as opposed to trying to warp a lesson around the "state" answer to a question.
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Bring back schools for "wayward" young women.
Or, better yet bring back convent (preferably cloistered) schools for girls/young women.
Either way pack em up, ship them out to Syosset and not let them back out until they graduate high school.
Many years ago I attended one of those convent schools in Sag Harbor. There is a whole different atmosphere w/o boys in the school.
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Yes, given the low number of parent/kids looking for the all girls Catholic school experience in the area nowadays, OLMA has seen a decline in applicants. So they were not particularly selective in terms of acceptances. And a precipitous decline in applicants (resulting in a precipitous decline in enrollment) is why it is closing.
Never was a big place for those looking to go secular Ivy. Nor would I expect it to be. As I recall, and this is 70’s -80’s, top kids tended towards the top Catholic colleges. With exceptions (of course).
Point taken. Suppose ending up at NYU is better than say Fashion Institute of Technology.
Some of the higher end schools got waivers from the state for exams. The state acknowledged that their comprehensive exams were more difficult than the State's version, so it would meet all academic criteria.
Private school teachers in turn loved this, since they could craft their own exams around the material and how it's taught as opposed to trying to warp a lesson around the "state" answer to a question.
It's not a waiver. It's accreditation. Schools that are accredited by ____ I forgot which one are exempt from giving state regents exams. Perhaps it's Atlantic Middle and High Schools Association? I can't remember.
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