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Old 11-06-2007, 09:35 AM
 
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Iherbe256 wrote:
I think everyone is still really missing the point here. It isn't about choosing to use only one or the other. You can argue the pros and cons of both eastern and western medicine all day but that is pointless as they both have viable pros and cons like anything does. That is why eastern and western medicine should be used TOGETHER for comprehensive treatment of the patient in illness and wellness.
IMO, everyone's point is valid, even if it is radically different than my own or misses the point that someone else is making. I agree up to a certain level that a blending of allopathic medicine/drugs with alternative healing/herbs is a desirable blend, though in my own life the blend is approximately 95% alternative and 5% allopathic. I look to allopathic means as a last resort only. I strongly prefer to first practice healthy living. When I notice that my health is sinking into a state of diseae, I then use alternative healing to restore my health. On those VERY rare occassions when alternative/natural means don't produce the results I desire then I take a tylenol.

blessings...Franco
I share your viewpoint. I have so far this year not taken any drugs, precription or non prescription. Last year I had my wisdom teeth taken out and DID take antibiotics. But that had been the first time in over 10 years that I took prescription drugs. I usually try herbal remedies or homeopathic ones. We moved recently, so I am looking for a naturopathic doctor, just got a recommendation! And I see a holistic dentist. On the other hand, my husband was in an accident and broke his wrist, and the surgeon that operated on him did a wonderful job and we were grateful to him.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:46 AM
 
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I share your viewpoint. I have so far this year not taken any drugs, precription or non prescription. Last year I had my wisdom teeth taken out and DID take antibiotics. But that had been the first time in over 10 years that I took prescription drugs. I usually try herbal remedies or homeopathic ones. We moved recently, so I am looking for a naturopathic doctor, just got a recommendation! And I see a holistic dentist. On the other hand, my husband was in an accident and broke his wrist, and the surgeon that operated on him did a wonderful job and we were grateful to him.
Eleven years ago I got bit by a dog, which required 11 stitches to sew up the wound. The doctor did a great job. MDs are great to have around for emergencies, but I don't rely upon them, their tests, or their drugs to keep me healthy.

blessings...Franco
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:03 AM
 
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Default Holistic healing

Alternative medicine upholds an holistic approach to treatment and would benefit a sick body in many ways. Herbs have been used for many years to treat bodily diseases and the upsurge of herbal supplements in the mainstream provides additional treatment options. Herbal remedies or supplements prepared by expert herbalists not only soothes the symptoms of a disease but also probes deeper into underlying symptoms. Moreover, the formulation of herbal extracts put into the supplement won't bring forth severe side effects but works synergistically to restore the body's well being.

Some inputs on herbal supplement and holistic healing:

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Old 11-07-2007, 06:46 AM
 
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I had carpal tunnel sydrome, and the doctor wanted to do surgery on my wrist. He said that I would never get the muscle back into the palm of my hand. He said that without surgery I would always have carpal tunnel. I went to a chiropractor and in two weeks it was gone. I went back to the doctor to be tested, and he was surprised that it was gone. I told him that a chiropractor had cured it, and his reply was, "No, it cured itself." This was many years ago, and all of the muscle returned many years ago.

I had endometrosis and had surgery. WHY? Because I was tired of the pain. Then a holistic doctor whom I was working for told me that he wished I had listened to him because he had given a woman certain vitamins and her endometrosis went away. I wish I had listened to him too.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC (Charlotte 'burb)
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I had carpal tunnel sydrome, and the doctor wanted to do surgery on my wrist. He said that I would never get the muscle back into the palm of my hand. He said that without surgery I would always have carpal tunnel. I went to a chiropractor and in two weeks it was gone. I went back to the doctor to be tested, and he was surprised that it was gone. I told him that a chiropractor had cured it, and his reply was, "No, it cured itself." This was many years ago, and all of the muscle returned many years ago.

I had endometrosis and had surgery. WHY? Because I was tired of the pain. Then a holistic doctor whom I was working for told me that he wished I had listened to him because he had given a woman certain vitamins and her endometrosis went away. I wish I had listened to him too.
I tried a couple different chiros for carpal tunnel and they didn't do squat except want to see me 3x a week. I stuck with each of them for the duration and nothing happened. I had surgery for CTS on both my wrists in 2001 and while not perfect, they are GREATLY improved. I don't have pain shooting up my arm and into y shoulder, my hands don't go numb, etc. The only thing a lost was a little bit of wrist sterngth. After this experience with chiros and again seeing one about something else 2 years ago, they are quacks who only want your money. I'm not adverse to most alternative practicioners; mainly chiros.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:07 AM
 
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For the treatment of Carpal Tunnel Syndorme, Jessaka had great success with a chiropractor, while groove1 experienced no benefit from a chiropractor and great improvement with surgery. Just goes to show that there's no BEST means of treatment. Different strokes for different folks.

Just becasue a certain modality doesn't work for someone personally, doesn't automatically make the practitioner a quack. If that was the case, many surgeons would be quacks becasue so many people have had expensive surgery and gotten no benefit from it. At least with the chiropractor, even if it proved unhelpful, you have no scars on your body, and the treatment was relatively inexpensive.

In this post ( #8 ), I listed chiropractic as an alternative modality that didn't do much for me that I was aware of, but I never considered any of the chiropractors to be quacks. I simply wrote off chiropractic as a modality that doesn't match the way my body heals.

blessings....Franco
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC (Charlotte 'burb)
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The scars from my CTS surgery or so tiny you have to look really hard to see them. They now do it with an endoscope and cut into the line across the wrist.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:09 AM
 
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The scars from my CTS surgery or so tiny you have to look really hard to see them. They now do it with an endoscope and cut into the line across the wrist.
I'm glad to hear that you weren't left with a big scar. My dog bite stitches left a very noticable scar on my leg.

blessings...Franco
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:06 PM
 
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I was thinking about your post last night (yes, I'm a dork) and just wanted to ask: a friend of mine who has Crohn's disease does well when she takes probiotics. Did you ask your doctor about that? Also: have you read: The Maker's Diet by Jordan Ruben?
Yes, actually I have read The Maker's Diet...my aunt sent it to me. Here is what I am wondering about probiotics...my GI specialist says that my immune system is highly over-active in my intestines causing the inflammation and ulcers so they give me, along with anti-inflammitories, rx immunosupressors...from the research I have done on probiotics they boost your immune system function in the intestines...so how do probiotics work with Crohns? Can anyone comment on that for me? I am so confused...this is why I would love to find a doctor who can compitantly practice western and eastern medicine together...
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:23 PM
 
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Iherbe256 wrote:
I think everyone is still really missing the point here. It isn't about choosing to use only one or the other. You can argue the pros and cons of both eastern and western medicine all day but that is pointless as they both have viable pros and cons like anything does. That is why eastern and western medicine should be used TOGETHER for comprehensive treatment of the patient in illness and wellness.
IMO, everyone's point is valid, even if it is radically different than my own or misses the point that someone else is making. I agree up to a certain level that a blending of allopathic medicine/drugs with alternative healing/herbs is a desirable blend, though in my own life the blend is approximately 95% alternative and 5% allopathic. I look to allopathic means as a last resort only. I strongly prefer to first practice healthy living. When I notice that my health is sinking into a state of diseae, I then use alternative healing to restore my health. On those VERY rare occassions when alternative/natural means don't produce the results I desire then I take a tylenol.

blessings...Franco
I was not at all insinuating that anyone's points made here were not valid...they are...I just think it is not valid to continue to argue the points in a manner that suggests that western medicine or eastern medicine is better than the other...they both have pros that should be used together in comprehensive patient care...the point which I thought was being missed. IMO, this would open up a world of opportunites for patients of both sides regarding their medical care. You seem to have found a balance that works for you which is great...however it is not a balance I would be comfortable with unless you incorporate a complete exam(including blood work, colonoscopy if age approriate, etc) with a regular MD with a frequency for your age group but that is just my view.
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