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Old 10-22-2021, 05:50 AM
 
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So this guy specializes in Alternative medicine AKA a practice that lacks biological plausibility and is untested, untestable or proven ineffective.

 
Old 10-22-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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So this guy specializes in Alternative medicine AKA a practice that lacks biological plausibility and is untested, untestable or proven ineffective.
Your comments are so desperate, even you acknowledge the NIH is studying the drug so they can pretend to be credible. All parts of the world are having success with Ivermectin


Our mainstream doctors could have the same success as this so called quack, but they abandoned their oath, no early treatment. Unlike any other infection/disease. What does that make them?


Our health agencies wont even recommend oral/nasal hygiene like they do hand washing, why are you so in bed with Pharmy? Studies have been out since 2020 on that as well.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/17/mouthw...-seconds-study


We could be stopping spread AND saving lives with simple measures, but that was never the goal..
 
Old 10-22-2021, 11:20 AM
 
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Your comments are so desperate, even you acknowledge the NIH is studying the drug so they can pretend to be credible. All parts of the world are having success with Ivermectin
The only person that seems to be desperate is you trying to show that Ivermectin works through the weakest form of evidence available when we have the HIGHEST quality evidence showing NO benefit. Additionally, we can also show a plethora of anecdotal evidence showing it doesn't work.

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Our mainstream doctors could have the same success as this so called quack, but they abandoned their oath, no early treatment. Unlike any other infection/disease. What does that make them?
There are many doctors in countries like Brazil that have tried the same protocols as you espouse with no luck, and look where they are at now. They now want to charge Bolsonaro with crimes against humanity. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-58976197


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Our health agencies wont even recommend oral/nasal hygiene like they do hand washing, why are you so in bed with Pharmy? Studies have been out since 2020 on that as well.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/17/mouthw...-seconds-study
Sorry but preliminary findings done in a laboratory petri dish are not evidence of it's effectiveness. Lets see this done in a human clinical trial. Once again you are grasping at straws and then claiming it is evidence for your claim.

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We could be stopping spread AND saving lives with simple measures, but that was never the goal..
Vaccines are a simple and proven measure in saving lives yet half the population refuses to get them.
 
Old 10-22-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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The only person that seems to be desperate is you trying to show that Ivermectin works through the weakest form of evidence available when we have the HIGHEST quality evidence showing NO benefit. Additionally, we can also show a plethora of anecdotal evidence showing it doesn't work.
Well that is the biggest problem isnt it? The doctors who dont know what they are doing should find another profession or at least copy the ones that do so they stop killing people.

Everyone under the sun interviewed this doctor, call him up and ask, he is willing to share. But as he noted, his interviews were always edited so no one would know treatment he was using that gave him 4x less mortality.

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Sorry but preliminary findings done in a laboratory petri dish are not evidence of it's effectiveness. Lets see this done in a human clinical trial. Once again you are grasping at straws and then claiming it is evidence for your claim.
Once again you pander for pharmy when the CDC pushes hand washing hygiene but not oral/nasal hygiene, your arguments would be a complete joke if people werent dying over it.

If they cared one iota, they would promote treatments that kill the infection where it starts, dont think too hard about though..


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Vaccines are a simple and proven measure in saving lives yet half the population refuses to get them.
Try to keep up, if you even really care vaccinated people are dying also

"The United Kingdom (UK) follows a pattern observed by TrialSite in other heavily vaccinated nations. From Singapore and Iceland to Israel countries with high vaccination rates struggle to overcome the pandemic."
 
Old 10-22-2021, 02:47 PM
 
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Well that is the biggest problem isnt it? The doctors who dont know what they are doing should find another profession or at least copy the ones that do so they stop killing people.

Everyone under the sun interviewed this doctor, call him up and ask, he is willing to share. But as he noted, his interviews were always edited so no one would know treatment he was using that gave him 4x less mortality.
And your fallaciously assuming that the doctors that say it is working for their patients know what they are doing? There could be multiple reasons why their patients are getting better that have nothing to do with Ivermectin.


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Once again you pander for pharmy when the CDC pushes hand washing hygiene but not oral/nasal hygiene, your arguments would be a complete joke if people werent dying over it.

If they cared one iota, they would promote treatments that kill the infection where it starts, dont think too hard about though..
This is the standard response when someone is pushed for real evidence, they play the accusation game of being a shill for big "insert industry".

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Try to keep up, if you even really care vaccinated people are dying also

"The United Kingdom (UK) follows a pattern observed by TrialSite in other heavily vaccinated nations. From Singapore and Iceland to Israel countries with high vaccination rates struggle to overcome the pandemic."
No sources or data provided in your link. Try again.
 
Old 10-22-2021, 04:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
The only person that seems to be desperate is you trying to show that Ivermectin works through the weakest form of evidence available when we have the HIGHEST quality evidence showing NO benefit. Additionally, we can also show a plethora of anecdotal evidence showing it doesn't work.

There are many doctors in countries like Brazil that have tried the same protocols as you espouse with no luck, and look where they are at now. They now want to charge Bolsonaro with crimes against humanity. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-58976197


Sorry but preliminary findings done in a laboratory petri dish are not evidence of it's effectiveness. Lets see this done in a human clinical trial. Once again you are grasping at straws and then claiming it is evidence for your claim.


Vaccines are a simple and proven measure in saving lives yet half the population refuses to get them.
Excellent post! The problem is there are some people who don't want to believe the truth and facts. Some people just have a need to believe in conspiracy. It is nothing new.
 
Old 10-22-2021, 04:22 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Closed due to insults. Some posts were deleted because they are ridiculing alternative medicine in the alternative medicine forum. You do not have to agree but you need to be respectful in this sub forum.
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