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Old 10-10-2021, 07:20 AM
 
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So what was in the news locally in Phoenix about the election fraud? Was there fraud found? I’m hearing the AZ attorney general now is in control?

What if he lets it sit on his desk for 6 months or throws the report in the garbage. ?

I have zero faith in these people. Sick of the goal posts moving. When are we ACTUALLY going to see some real tangible results of a cheat if there was one?
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:43 AM
 
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Report of the audit

Summary:
Ballot count confirmed, however, a number of ballots greater than the margin of victory are suspect (section 5.2), e.g.

- 23K ballots were sent to a former address of a voter, but were voted anyway
- 9K ballots were received from voters who weren't sent a ballot
- 5K voters appear to have cast ballots in more than one county
...


I never expected the ballot count to be substantially different than what was counted on election night, it's too easy to recount and expose any large differences, so that's unlikely to happen.

However, not verifying that everyone who voted was allowed to vote (which wasn't checked in the audit), and actually is the voter and not someone else, and that they're not voting more than once, is a problem. There's no good way to fix problems like that after the fact, it has to be prevented from happening or whoever does it will get away with it. Plugging these holes is what I'd like to see come out the audit.
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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It would be well to review the county's response to the above examples before accepting them as factual findings. Having this audit done by an entity with no experience in election audits, a poor understanding of the laws and procedures involved, and run by people with a clear improper agenda was bound to end up like this- with undermined confidence in a system that does in fact work.

The attorney general is busy running for the Senate, so he's also busy appealing to the same base that believes in the "steal". What he's going to do with these "findings"? Who knows.
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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No one is trustworthy. I do not trust Trump acolytes but I don't trust the partisan hacks on the other side who scoff at the notion that there could be fraud. At the end of the day we lose with Democrats or Republicans. So long as these systemically corrupt parties have any control there is going to be shenanigans.
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Old 10-10-2021, 09:43 AM
 
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The only thing the Attorney General could do would be to follow up on people who voted multiple times. There's no way to remove such ballots, as there's no way to identify the affected ballots. So the current results are the results.

The positive things that can potentially come out of this are changes to election laws and procedures to prevent invalid voting in future elections, and making independent audits automatic after every election to identify problems so they can be fixed.
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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There was no widespread fraud. Trump lost, yet again, by even more. The takeaway? Certain people still love rallying behind a loser.
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Old 10-10-2021, 06:52 PM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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I see the tab for this nonsense was several million dollars; are the taxpayers stuck paying for this nonsense?


Make the republican party pay for it, since there were other impartial audits done before this cluster ****; the public shouldnt get stuck paying for this inanely stupid waste of time and money..
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