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Old 10-27-2022, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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How can Denver and Memphis be so low when they are such contenders? I don't get it.

Here’s Forbes’ full list of NBA franchise valuations for 2022:

1 Golden State Warriors: $7 billion
2 New York Knicks: $6.1 billion
3 Los Angeles Lakers: $5.9 billion
4 Chicago Bulls: $4.1 billion
5 Boston Celtics: $4.0 billion

6 Los Angeles Clippers: $3.9 billion
7 Brooklyn Nets: $3.5 billion
8 Dallas Mavericks: $3.3 billion
9 Houston Rockets: $3.2 billion
10 Philadelphia 76ers: $3.15 billion

11 Toronto Raptors: $3.1 billion
12 Miami Heat: $3 billion
13 Phoenix Suns: $2.7 billion
14 Washington Wizards: $2.5 billion
15 Milwaukee Bucks: $2.3 billion

16 Portland Trail Blazers: $2.1 billion
17 Cleveland Cavaliers: $2.05 billion
18 Sacramento Kings: $2.03 billion
19 Utah Jazz: $2.025 billion
20 San Antonio Spurs: $2 billion

21 Atlanta Hawks: $1.975 billion
22 Denver Nuggets: $1.93 billion
23 Detroit Pistons: $1.9 billion
24 Oklahoma City Thunder: $1.875 billion
25 Orlando Magic: $1.85 billion

26 Indiana Pacers: $1.8 billion
27 Charlotte Hornets: $1.7 billion
28 Minnesota Timberwolves: $1.67 billion
29 Memphis Grizzlies: $1.65 billion
30 New Orleans Pelicans: $1.6 billion

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/10/...aluations.html
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:04 PM
 
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How can Denver and Memphis be so low when they are such contenders? I don't get it.

Here’s Forbes’ full list of NBA franchise valuations for 2022:

1 Golden State Warriors: $7 billion
2 New York Knicks: $6.1 billion
3 Los Angeles Lakers: $5.9 billion
4 Chicago Bulls: $4.1 billion
5 Boston Celtics: $4.0 billion

6 Los Angeles Clippers: $3.9 billion
7 Brooklyn Nets: $3.5 billion
8 Dallas Mavericks: $3.3 billion
9 Houston Rockets: $3.2 billion
10 Philadelphia 76ers: $3.15 billion

11 Toronto Raptors: $3.1 billion
12 Miami Heat: $3 billion
13 Phoenix Suns: $2.7 billion
14 Washington Wizards: $2.5 billion
15 Milwaukee Bucks: $2.3 billion

16 Portland Trail Blazers: $2.1 billion
17 Cleveland Cavaliers: $2.05 billion
18 Sacramento Kings: $2.03 billion
19 Utah Jazz: $2.025 billion
20 San Antonio Spurs: $2 billion

21 Atlanta Hawks: $1.975 billion
22 Denver Nuggets: $1.93 billion
23 Detroit Pistons: $1.9 billion
24 Oklahoma City Thunder: $1.875 billion
25 Orlando Magic: $1.85 billion

26 Indiana Pacers: $1.8 billion
27 Charlotte Hornets: $1.7 billion
28 Minnesota Timberwolves: $1.67 billion
29 Memphis Grizzlies: $1.65 billion
30 New Orleans Pelicans: $1.6 billion

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/10/...aluations.html
Way too low: Denver and Atlanta

Way to high: LA Clippers, Brooklyn Nets and Sacramento Kings. Clippers and Nets, as bad as the Lakers or Knicks can be, are so far behind the top team in their market that being in NYC or LA doesn't matter. The Sacramento Kings have been the worst ran franchise in the NBA for 20 years, they are a long way from being competitive, Sacramento isn't a big market and the Kings are also right in the Warriors shadow (no disagreement with the Warriors being No. 1, either). Kings easily should be last based on all factors weighed together.

The Lakers at No. 3 is probably right. But that really shows how bad that organization currently is (pound-for-pound way worse than the Kings). The Lakers are the NBA's No. 1 historical franchise, the No. 1 most popular franchise, the No. 1 destination franchise for players and they have by far the (still) No. 1 most marketable player in the NBA. They should be smoking the rest of the NBA in value. Only incompetence has them less than No. 1.
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Lakers are only temporarily third. They’re easily the most valuable team. Problem is they’ve sucked for so long. Weird to say considering they recently won a title. Sad how that success came and went so fast
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:11 PM
 
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Imagine if the Knicks didn't have James Dolan bleeding the value out of that franchise.
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:19 PM
 
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Lakers are only temporarily third. They’re easily the most valuable team. Problem is they’ve sucked for so long. Weird to say considering they recently won a title. Sad how that success came and went so fast
The Knicks have been even worse for way longer. They haven't won a playoff series since 2013 (that one was the only one since 2000); they haven't made an NBA Finals since 1999 (only two since 1973); and last title was in 1973 (only other was in 1970). Yet, somehow the Knicks have still managed to stay in the No. 2 spot.

The Lakers (especially when they had the Bubble title just three years ago) should have about 50 years of equity before falling outside the No. 1 spot. I agree, they will eventually get it back. But they still did manage to do in about 10-15 years what should've taken 50. ... not being the No. 1 most valuable NBA franchise.
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Damn Celtics fell off hard. They need better PR.
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Old 10-27-2022, 08:53 PM
 
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Damn Celtics fell off hard. They need better PR.
Celtics right where they should be, and most of that is because of history. The Celtics haven't been a national brand since the 80s with Magic vs. Bird (LA vs. Boston) built the NBA into a national league.

Right now, the Lakers, Bulls (almost all due to Jordan's near mythical equity), LeBron (wherever he plays) and now Warriors are the only national brands. Knicks aren't a national brand but will always be high because they are by far the NY metro team.

Celtics are, and always will be, a huge brand in New England, so nothing wrong with being No. 5.

FWIW, the Warriors are kind of like the Celtics in the 80s. They are huge right now, but if they don't remain dominant, they will fall back at least in terms of having a national fan base, but in a big enough area where shouldn't fall outside of the top 5.
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Old 10-27-2022, 09:39 PM
 
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The higher the list, the bigger the city/market. The reason Memphis is low is because it's a small market team.
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Old 10-27-2022, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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It’s a combination of the value of their arena (if they own their own like the Warriors and Knicks do), the market, and the performance of the team & perceived ability to attract free agents and other components of success. The Warriors have all three right now. The Knicks and Lakers have incompetent ownership who inherited their teams so I don’t see the rankings changing anytime soon (unless they get pushed out like Sterling).
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Old 10-28-2022, 08:20 AM
 
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It’s a combination of the value of their arena (if they own their own like the Warriors and Knicks do), the market, and the performance of the team & perceived ability to attract free agents and other components of success. The Warriors have all three right now. The Knicks and Lakers have incompetent ownership who inherited their teams so I don’t see the rankings changing anytime soon (unless they get pushed out like Sterling).
You can throw in media/tv/ad contracts that,IMHO, are worth 100's of millions if not more. Rabid fan base. Even though the Knicks are not the best run team, their engine runs fluid, in terms of cash flow and revenue. I believe Stevie Wonder could run the Knicks. Well, James Dolan is just as blind.
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