Michelle Wu Rent Control Proposal (leaked) via Boston Globe (for rent, houses)

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

He’s a landlord from East Boston.

What doesn’t pass your ‘BS Detector’?

As he himself noted, just about any clown can become a landlord. That he is one, doesn't prove to me that he knows what he is talking about and just isn't some random dipwad running his mouth on social media. I don't care how long the text is or how long it took him to put it together. It's a lot of rambling.



For one, how he outrageously stuffs the majority of Boston landlords into his two neat little boxes should make one question his validity. It would be one thing if he was just venting his "opinion" as a disgruntled nobody, but that is not how he presented himself.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Lol “that rag” so you’d rather just talk and not even know what proposal you’re talking about?

I was referring to what YOU were saying not to the article. You were commenting about "rent control" as you do on many other threads. I was responding to your comments. And in true fashion you are again projecting yourself on to others since you had to scurry off to another forum to find comments from another (anonymous) contributor (lol) to be able to offer any kind of response. You are here with zero evidence, zero studies supporting rent control as an effective policy, and you have scant knowledge about what you're talking about yet, you're implying that I "just talk" and not know what "proposal" I'm talking about. That's rich. And you can't stabilize a neighborhood whose socioeconomic diversity has already been decimated using this policy. You do that by increasing a variety of housing stock. But feel free to keep bellowing about what you believe rather than what's been already established. And feel free to keep comparing apples to oranges and engaging in other logic fallacies. Like I said, whatever makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Who is this "very smart person", and where does he obtain the authority to make all these quite assertive claims with absolutely nothing to back them up? Much of it just don't pass my BS detector.

All you need to know is he's "very smart." Now, accept that and move on. lmao

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

I was referring to what YOU were saying not to the article. You were commenting about "rent control" as you do on many other threads. I was responding to your comments. And in true fashion you are again projecting yourself on to others since you had to scurry off to another forum to find comments from another (anonymous) contributor (lol) to be able to offer any kind of response. You are here with zero evidence, zero studies supporting rent control as an effective policy, and you have scant knowledge about what you're talking about yet, you're implying that I "just talk" and not know what "proposal" I'm talking about. That's rich. And you can't stabilize a neighborhood whose socioeconomic diversity has already been decimated using this policy. You do that by increasing a variety of housing stock. But feel free to keep bellowing about what you believe rather than what's been already established. And feel free to keep comparing apples to oranges and engaging in other logic fallacies. Like I said, whatever makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.

Coming from a person who hasn't even read the rent control proposal...that is rich. Not sure why the word proposal is in quotation marks either.

The idea that rent stabilization would not stabilize a neighborhood is illogical.

Most of what you say really has to do with you not liking me not anything of substance regarding.. well anything, really.

It's obvious you don't really read up on current issues, or look at what works in other places outside of Boston. You make it an intentional point to bury your head in the sand (some sort of faux-virtuous reason for that I guess?) and for some reason (I don't know what reason yer), you want to be considered a credible or wise person when most of what you do is reject information and divergent viewpoints.

End of the day there is only one (1) major city in the US with rent control whose rents are more expensive than Boston and they cap rent increases at a paltry 2.6% so how can that compare to Boston's 6% plus inflation? You run away from these truths but they're still truths.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Coming from a person who hasn't even read the rent control proposal...that is rich. Not sure why the word proposal is in quotation marks either.

The idea that rent stabilization would not stabilize a neighborhood is illogical.

Most of what you say really has to do with you not liking me not anything of substance regarding.. well anything, really.

It's obvious you don't really read up on current issues, or look at what works in other places outside of Boston. You make it an intentional point to bury your head in the sand (some sort of faux-virtuous reason for that I guess?) and for some reason (I don't know what reason yer), you want to be considered a credible or wise person when most of what you do is reject information and divergent viewpoints.

End of the day there is only one (1) major city in the US with rent control whose rents are more expensive than Boston and they cap rent increases at a paltry 2.6% so how can that compare to Boston's 6% plus inflation? You run away from these truths but they're still truths.

Waaaaah, you disagree with me cause you don't like me. Waaaah.

Cool story bro. Bring some evidence with you next time rather than just beliefs and baseless ad homs. I don't argue with religious zealots on the right or the left.


Boo hoo.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

Waaaaah, you disagree with me cause you don't like me. Waaaah.

Cool story bro. Bring some evidence with you next time rather than just beliefs and baseless ad homs. I don't argue with religious zealots on the right or the left.


Boo hoo.

Evidence was provided-but you don’t consider or even read evidence that doesn’t fit your narrative. You try to oversimplify things because it’s all you can mentally handle. It’s a pattern.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by massnative71

As he himself noted, just about any clown can become a landlord. That he is one, doesn't prove to me that he knows what he is talking about and just isn't some random dipwad running his mouth on social media. I don't care how long the text is or how long it took him to put it together. It's a lot of rambling.



For one, how he outrageously stuffs the majority of Boston landlords into his two neat little boxes should make one question his validity. It would be one thing if he was just venting his "opinion" as a disgruntled nobody, but that is not how he presented himself.

Exactly

[BostonBornMassMade]

Still not sure what really justifies a 10% YoY increase. That probably getting shot down as we speak by the city council, for not being aggressive enough

EDIT: I was correct. Kendra Lara feels its not enough. Tania Fernandes wants Rent Control but will settle or Rent Stabilization https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/02/...trol-proposal/

In a hearing that lasted over five hours Wednesday, Boston’s city councilors sank their teeth into Mayor Michelle Wu’s controversial rent control proposal for the first time, highlighting the uphill battle the policy faces before it can become law.

Progressive councilors argued the proposal, which would cap rent increases in line with inflation, doesn’t go far enough to protect tenants from devastating rent hikes or eviction. The council’s centrists worried about harming small landlords or dampening housing production in the city.

There was, however, general agreement that some form of rent control could help address the worst effects of Boston’s housing crisis, and that, in order to succeed on Beacon Hill, it would need to walk a fine line.

“This proposal is a good start.” -Councilor Gabriela Colleta

But some councilors thought that 6 percent limit is too high, meaning it would still allow for rent increases that put a financial strain on residents.
Kendra Lara, a first-term councilor representing parts of West Roxbury, Jamaica Plain, and Roslindale, said she “could not” support a policy that allows for hikes at the cap Wu proposed.

Wu’s proposal would also enact “just cause” eviction protections for tenants, meaning a landlord would need to have what the city considers adequate reason — like damage to a property caused by a tenant — to start an eviction. Some councilors, including Lara, argued that policy does not go far enough.

Council President Ed Flynn said he was concerned about rent caps harming small landlords. He proposed a property tax exemption of $6,000 a year for landlords who rent units at $500 a month below the market rate to make more of the city’s housing stock affordable.

Per this article no mention of anyone outright opposed to rent control.

Its funny 73% of Boston Globe renters are opposed but 76% of Boston Renters are in favor. according to a 2021 WBUR poll. 59%were strongly in favor


I listened to Micahel Flaherty he sounds wary but open to hearing more and wants to find out the likelihood of this passing. Frank the Crank was absent but probably hates it. Erin Murphy is a renter with young kids looking to rent, she sounded open.

Liz Breadon is in favor of rent control and has in the past cited Mayor Menino's 1994 quote saying Rent Control should be decided by Boston voters.

All POC Councilors support rent control.

So there are actually only 1-2 Concilors opposed to rent control Frank Baker and maybe Michael Flaherty.. This will pass City Council and go on to the State legislature. If the legislature acts, it will probably pass under Maura Healey.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GRAKy_dZUM

[BostonBornMassMade]

"People who are suggesting that [housing] growth would stop are being misleading." -Sheila Dillon, Boston's Chief of Housing.

No doubt more knowledgeable of the Boston housing market and development than the posters here

[bostongymjunkie]

What's being discussed in the city right now is not rent control, despite your continued use of the term in your endless free associative ramblings to yourself.