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Old 04-02-2024, 04:41 AM
 
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Hi all,

For those experienced leaders who have been in leadership positions for a while do you know if there are different frameworks/models for leadership? The one I studied extensively focuses on Total Ownership; Everything-Is-The-Leaders-Fault style. It is from the book Extreme Ownership: How Navy Seals Lead and Win. The author is Jocko Wilink who also runs the leadership development company Echelon Front.

Besides his method of leadership are there other methods/frameworks interested folks can learn and adopt?
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Old 04-02-2024, 07:52 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I started my first supervisory job at age 26, and had 23 direct reports. I never had any specific management training, just a degree and graduate work in psychology. I based my leadership style on my previous supervisors and managers. I emulated the best, and learned what not to do from the worst. Then as I became more experienced I modified based on changes in staff, employment law, and generational issues. When I started in my 20s I had people in their 60s reporting to me, now at 71 all of my team are 24-32. I'm finally about to retire after 45 years as a manager.
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Old 04-04-2024, 06:01 PM
 
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that's basically known as trial and error. I was more of inquiring about the professional frameworks from the leadership industry.
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:59 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Besides his method of leadership are there other methods/frameworks interested folks can learn and adopt?
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I was more of inquiring about the professional frameworks from the leadership industry.
An industry leader is the term used to describe a company that is the most effective in its industry. That said, I assume you are speaking to (adopting) the basic principles in leading one’s self first (as opposed to leading people and/or an organization) i.e. learning, emotional intelligence, feedback, values, self-reflection and so on.
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Old 04-19-2024, 05:10 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Hi all.

Besides his method of leadership are there other methods/frameworks interested folks can learn and adopt?
Age old Bill and Dave model still works pretty well for managers willing to get out of the way!

One of their later models (from the 1970s). Management by Wandering Around. One night after midnight, they wandered up behind me, diligently at my workstation. We had an interesting and stimulating conversation, while I continued to work.

I had over 30 different managers. 2 were great, most were worthless and counterproductive to employee and company success. Studied a lot of them in an executive MBA program. Most are clueless, and lucky if effective. But it's very simple and nearly effortless to be a good manager and leader. Set the captives free and get out of their way.

One of my kid's is CFO/COO, and another is an executive director of a pretty large Non-profit. We have a few enlightening discussions regarding leadership/ workforce management. But usually it drives back to achieving company goals through effective utilization of available resources. (Always limited by human potential). You can choose to restrict that potential.... Or release it.
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Old 04-20-2024, 10:23 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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I had over 30 different managers. 2 were great, most were worthless and counterproductive to employee and company success. Studied a lot of them in an executive MBA program. Most are clueless, and lucky if effective. But it's very simple and nearly effortless to be a good manager and leader. Set the captives free and get out of their way.
There’s a huge difference between a manager vs. an executive in terms of leadership; hence my previous point/question for the OP. That said, EMBA programs are structured for current executives/leaders.

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One of my kid's is CFO/COO
It’s extremely rare for one executive to effectively handle both roles; that said, his title would be CFOO.
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