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Old 11-11-2022, 02:57 AM
 
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Does anyone have any suggetsions re food not dry?
Zelda had some bladder issues did some tests and does not have kidney issues now but most likly will later in life. Vet put her on Royal Canine renal. She did not like the purina pro plan.
She likes her fancy feast pate salmon .... Thoughts?

Buddy has/had struvite crystals. Vet put him on Hills Science Diet C/D dry cat food. I put him on designer water....half AquaFina, half distilled. So far so good.
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Old 11-11-2022, 05:19 AM
 
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Buddy has/had struvite crystals. Vet put him on Hills Science Diet C/D dry cat food. I put him on designer water....half AquaFina, half distilled. So far so good.
Get your cat off this garbage immediately. Imagine putting a cat with urinary tract and bladder problems on a DRY diet! It's downright malpractice. Not to mention this garbage will ruin his digestion. I speak from experience.

Your cat needs to be on a wet diet. The brand doesn't matter all that much, but you want low carbs, because high carbs (like that cd crap) causes an alkaline urine and your cat needs to be acidic.

I beg you, learn more about what your cat needs, throw that crap away and put your cat on a wet diet.
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Old 11-11-2022, 09:39 AM
 
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Get your cat off this garbage immediately. Imagine putting a cat with urinary tract and bladder problems on a DRY diet! It's downright malpractice. Not to mention this garbage will ruin his digestion. I speak from experience.

Your cat needs to be on a wet diet. The brand doesn't matter all that much, but you want low carbs, because high carbs (like that cd crap) causes an alkaline urine and your cat needs to be acidic.

I beg you, learn more about what your cat needs, throw that crap away and put your cat on a wet diet.
perfect!


also on bottled & distilled water. i'd use only bottled. some water brands too now, i see, are less than optimal for humans let alone sensitive cat kidneys. it takes research time but find a decent bottled water is hard really.
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Old 11-13-2022, 06:31 AM
 
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I had one just die (at age 16) from kidney disease and another whose chronic kidney disease (at age 18) is being managed (he is stage 2 and I give him potassium and Cerenia every day and fluids every other day).


My advice is to:


1. get regular check ups/blood work at the vet. Vets recommend every 6 months for chronic kidney disease.

2. invest in a pet water fountain. Stay away from plastic and get a stainless steel version.
3. feed a diet that is predominantly wet food. The Hills CKD prescription food has worked well for us. If kitty has an aversion to a prescription diet, Weruva canned food is also low(er) in phosphorous. Make sure that food is always available.

4. watch her closely. If she is constipated or (especially) starts peeing outside of the litter box, get her to a vet immediately. Make sure that she continues to eat and drink regularly as well. If she seems lethargic or listless or starts losing weight quickly, get her to a vet immediately.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:43 AM
 
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Does anyone have any suggetsions re food not dry?
Zelda had some bladder issues did some tests and does not have kidney issues now but most likly will later in life. Vet put her on Royal Canine renal. She did not like the purina pro plan.
She likes her fancy feast pate salmon .... Thoughts?
I am not sure I would use a renal prescription diet on a cat that did not officially have kidney disease (although, I am not opposed to prescription diets). But with that being said, you may wish to ask your vet about a phosporous binder to sprinkle over her wet food (that way she can still have her Fancy Feast). I would encourage labs every 6 months.

What was her bladder issue? Get several water fountains and place through your home (they do not have to be pricey - just get that water flowing - it is more appealing to them).
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:08 PM
 
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I am not sure I would use a renal prescription diet on a cat that did not officially have kidney disease (although, I am not opposed to prescription diets). But with that being said, you may wish to ask your vet about a phosporous binder to sprinkle over her wet food (that way she can still have her Fancy Feast). I would encourage labs every 6 months.

What was her bladder issue? Get several water fountains and place through your home (they do not have to be pricey - just get that water flowing - it is more appealing to them).

A phos binder or niacinamide are both good things to keep in mind for a CKD cat, but should not be used unless they are needed. Meaning, if the blood work shows elevated phosphorous. It is not appropriate to use "just in case".

"Prescription" diets is just a marketing gimmick, the foods do not contain any medicine. They are not any better quality (and often worse) than any other canned food you can get at the grocery store. But if you want to sue them, use the wet only, just be aware that even the wet are very high in carbs and poor quality.

Other than that, I agree with this post.

Dr Pierson (feline nutrition specialist) on "prescription" diets.

https://catinfo.org/#Prescription/Therapeutic_Diets
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Old 11-27-2022, 02:12 AM
 
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Get your cat off this garbage immediately. Imagine putting a cat with urinary tract and bladder problems on a DRY diet! It's downright malpractice. Not to mention this garbage will ruin his digestion. I speak from experience.

Your cat needs to be on a wet diet. The brand doesn't matter all that much, but you want low carbs, because high carbs (like that cd crap) causes an alkaline urine and your cat needs to be acidic.

I beg you, learn more about what your cat needs, throw that crap away and put your cat on a wet diet.

In the end what Buddy eats is up to him. Other than that appetite stimulant cream the SPCA had him on (turned his ears inside strawberry red), I know of no way to make a cat eat anything he refuses to eat. When I first got him home the SPCA included a couple cases of Fussy Cat Tuna and Salmon, with instructions to wean him off that, and get him to eat Hills C/D wet food (they included three kinds). Buddy shot them all down.



Without the cream he would only deign eat the Fussy Cat. Yes, I went to Pet Club and bought one each of every can of wetfood they sold individually. Yes, I tried raw food. Yes, I tried making him food. He gives it all a sniff then saunters off. When he first came home he had dental work done, and could only eat canned food. As soon as the moratorium was over, and I tried him on the Hills C/D dry food, and it was love at first bite. He now eats with relish, drinks water on his own (I used to have to add a couple teaspoons water to the canned food). Since moving to Stanislaus county, he has started loving his cat tree, now has zoomies, plays with a tennis ball, follows me from room to room, and last week I heard him purr for the first time ever. I'm thinking he is happy at the new place.



He is due for the third blood panel in January, and I'm looking for a decent vet that is not a COVIDimaniac demanding parking lot pickup/dropoff. Still looking.
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Old 11-27-2022, 06:28 AM
 
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In the end what Buddy eats is up to him. Other than that appetite stimulant cream the SPCA had him on (turned his ears inside strawberry red), I know of no way to make a cat eat anything he refuses to eat. When I first got him home the SPCA included a couple cases of Fussy Cat Tuna and Salmon, with instructions to wean him off that, and get him to eat Hills C/D wet food (they included three kinds). Buddy shot them all down.



Without the cream he would only deign eat the Fussy Cat. Yes, I went to Pet Club and bought one each of every can of wetfood they sold individually. Yes, I tried raw food. Yes, I tried making him food. He gives it all a sniff then saunters off. When he first came home he had dental work done, and could only eat canned food. As soon as the moratorium was over, and I tried him on the Hills C/D dry food, and it was love at first bite. He now eats with relish, drinks water on his own (I used to have to add a couple teaspoons water to the canned food). Since moving to Stanislaus county, he has started loving his cat tree, now has zoomies, plays with a tennis ball, follows me from room to room, and last week I heard him purr for the first time ever. I'm thinking he is happy at the new place.



He is due for the third blood panel in January, and I'm looking for a decent vet that is not a COVIDimaniac demanding parking lot pickup/dropoff. Still looking.

Cats on a wet diet don't drink because they get their moisture from their food, which is the way nature intended. Adding a little water to the canned food is good, to get even more water into him.

Cats on a dry diet can never ever drink enough water to offset the dehydration caused by the dry diet. He eats that garage kibble because it is sprayed with fats and (MSG) flavor enhancers to make him eat it. Fats that go rancid and begin to grow mold as soon as the air hits the kibble.

And prepare yourself, you will soon begin to see frequent vomiting or regurgitation. This product is corn heavy garbage and will ruin your cat's digestion, make him at a higher risk to diabetes, and kidney disease and IBD to name a few things. He may begin to experience constipation and/or diarrhea, long term on this garbage as well.

You will also begin to notice a deterioration in his fur quality, now he's on a dry garbage diet instead of a wet diet. Probably become less active as well.

You really really need to get your cat back on a wet diet.
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Old 12-03-2022, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Sarasota/ Bradenton - University Pkwy area
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We've had 2 cats run into issues over the past few years with bladder infections. One cat had 2 infections in less than a year. Switching cat foods helped some, but I also found Vet's Best Urinary Tract Support tablets with cranberry. Have been giving daily doses to both cats and no more urinary tract infections for over 2 years now.
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Old 03-24-2023, 07:37 PM
 
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Found a new vet here since there is no chance to get him back to SF SPCA now. Had their records sent over to her, and first appointment was in January. He had stopped eating the Hills Urinary Care c/d in late December, and had only been eating like a quarter can of Fussy Cat twice a day. Urine and bloodtest came back negative for struvite crystals. She put him on Purina Pro Plan UR Uninary St/Ox dry food...or tried to. Once the appetite stimulant was over (it can only be used three days running), he flipped the paw to that one too.

I went on a major safari for anything he would eat, and finally found Purina Cat Chow Complete, Purina ProPlan Essentials, and Purina Fancy Feast /w Ocean Fish. If constantly rotated he will eat some of these in addition to quarter can of Fussy Cat twice a day. Everything else gets rejected, even my fried chicken that the homeless cats fight over only gets a sniff. I'm getting nice urine clumps and regular poo. Hairballs once a week, now that I give him a eyedropper full of half codliver oil and half mineral oil every ten days. Hairballs were twice a week before, so seems to do a little good.

I settled on half distilled water and half Aqua Fina. The latter is supposedly the most stripped-down water next to distilled. Hoping that limits the minerals used to form struvites. He's turning into a chunky monkey, so a diet will likely be coming at the next vet checkup in June. He seems a lot happier here. Still loves 'Da Bird' but pingpong balls are the favorite.
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