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Old 09-17-2010, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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Please don't.

You made your point. Even if you wrote a Ph.D. thesis on this whoever didn't want to believe you wouldn't (data interpretation is almost always ambiguous). Just agree to disagree. I definitely hear what you're saying. Others don't. No big deal.

 
Old 09-17-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Like anyone is going to take an hour to read that rant and shift through all of those addresses.
 
Old 09-17-2010, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Allen,

I will make an effort to read your post but Chuckcity makes valid points. There are a lot of considerations apart from home prices. It really comes down to home affordability and desirability which is sometimes in the eye of the beholder.

Some people may place a premium on living around black/white people while others may discount for this. The same goes for education and social class.

Since the interpretation of data is very consuming, does anyone know of sociological studies that discuss the decline of the south suburbs. I have read about white flight and the decline of Chicago neighborhoods, particularly the west sides (garfield park, lawndale, humboldt park) which accompanied the overall decline in the manufacturing sector (and the great migration) and the advent of highways which led to suburbanization but have not seen much published on the south suburbs apart from a few papers.
 
Old 09-17-2010, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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I've wondered the same thing, looked around a number of times but never found too much. I also am rarely convinced in the little I have read that the author is taking a disinterested approach; sad thing to say for research, but a lot of academic studies strike me as having a very specific bias (what most people would call liberal). NPR report today on expelled Proviso student is a perfect example -- very glad to hear the topic but so annoyed at how they approached it.
 
Old 09-17-2010, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Man, there are some obnoxious quotes going on in this thread. Yes, Lansing is going down the tubes. Tell me a city/town in Northeast Illinois that isn't going down the tubes. Good Luck.
 
Old 09-18-2010, 12:35 AM
 
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oh my god. you're going to bring in the beggars' shootings, which by the way, was a kid going down the total wrong path, and i would like to see a bullet hole actually in someone's house in lansing. please. we're a long way off from being crime-ridden guys. the lansing cops do their job. everyone should remember we're a
Spoiler
freaking
community, stand together.

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Old 09-18-2010, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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I think we've discussed this to death; It's past its bedtime.
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