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Old 01-06-2023, 01:44 PM
 
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Assuming he snapped... he might have premeditated it for a while. A lot of people who kill fantasize and plan it out.
I doubt anyone "snaps" and decides to kill themselves and their family.

As for the surviving family, they will have a lot more to deal with than being fatherless if the man goes to prison. To know that your father/husband tried to murder everyone...
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Old 01-06-2023, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA (Metro Seattle)
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Why do people snap. It is very sad. Now he is off to prison and the children will have no Dad. Another fatherless family.

Why can't people just go quietly off themselves?
If you care, and I must say was mildly curious m'self: go to NIH .gov. "Murder-Suicide: A Review of the Recent Literature." A dry read but I cherry picked a line from the "conclusions" that should feed the red meat nature of this story.

"There are certain clinical presentations that should alert mental health professionals to be suspicious of the risk of possible murder-suicide: a middle-aged man who is recently separated or facing pending estrangement from his intimate partner and who is depressed and has access to firearms;"

Of course in this case it was car meets cliff. Not: dad's magnum meets family. Can't take away a man's Tesla after all just because he's depressed. Bummer for all involved.
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Old 01-06-2023, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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It seems Dr. Patel is a family annihilator. He's just not very good at it.
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Old 01-06-2023, 08:06 PM
 
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and his mother-in-law
Well that one is understandable.

In all seriousness, if you are a loser and want to kill yourself that is one thing (despite the pain you cause to others), but why kill your children and those who love you.
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Old 01-06-2023, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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One CT scan too many at work drove him over the edge.
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Old 01-06-2023, 09:40 PM
 
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In all seriousness, if you are a loser and want to kill yourself that is one thing (despite the pain you cause to others), but why kill your children and those who love you.
"If I can't have them, no one will."
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Old 01-06-2023, 10:34 PM
 
Location: NJ
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People fall asleep all the time driving though. They've got something else, suicide note maybe.

Or maybe his wife and or kids told LE he had a death wish.


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While the following is pure speculation, I post it both to spark discussion, as well as an exercise in instant speculation, before having coffee, on a Friday morning.

They are not certain, but they have enough evidence that DA thinks he can get a conviction. Since it is California, this means they have a LOT of evidence.

The police have testimony from the wife. The children confirmed the testimony.

Scene of accident shows unusalhigh speed collision with guard rail, which supports wifes testimony. Data from the Tesla confirms the driver did not brake, and steered the car off the road, into the fall, no oncoming traffic or object in view. Warning were going off at the time of the accident.

The only reason the story is "a story" is because it was a Tesla. Which also is the only reason all the family members survived.

This ends my speculation for the day. Drive safe, and buy A Tesla. Unless you are married to a lunatic. There is no "save me from a suicide" mode on a Tesla.




Yet.


I think what you posted will end up being close to what actually happened, especially the wife and kids telling he confessed as they were driving off the cliff.



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Well that one is understandable.

In all seriousness, if you are a loser and want to kill yourself that is one thing (despite the pain you cause to others), but why kill your children and those who love you.

I feel bad that the kids will be left with emotional scars from it, especially if they were all awake.
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Old 01-07-2023, 07:07 AM
 
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Well that one is understandable.

In all seriousness, if you are a loser and want to kill yourself that is one thing (despite the pain you cause to others), but why kill your children and those who love you.

"to spare them the pain of living without him"
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Old 01-07-2023, 08:32 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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If you care, and I must say was mildly curious m'self: go to NIH .gov. "Murder-Suicide: A Review of the Recent Literature." A dry read but I cherry picked a line from the "conclusions" that should feed the red meat nature of this story.

"There are certain clinical presentations that should alert mental health professionals to be suspicious of the risk of possible murder-suicide: a middle-aged man who is recently separated or facing pending estrangement from his intimate partner and who is depressed and has access to firearms;"

Of course in this case it was car meets cliff. Not: dad's magnum meets family. Can't take away a man's Tesla after all just because he's depressed. Bummer for all involved.
And you can't take away a pilot's license or plane just because you suspect he may be depressed after a divorce or separation? (Shades of MH370, and Germanwings flight 9525, French alps). Here's what Wiki says about the pilot in the Germanwings (a carrier owned by Lufthansa) case:
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The crash was deliberately caused by the co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, who had previously been treated for suicidal tendencies and declared "unfit to work" by his doctor. Lubitz kept this information from his employer and instead reported for duty
An airline can have all the rules in place and cause for alerts that it wants, but it seems that pilots determined to take down their own plane and themselves and passengers with it will find a way to avoid drawing attention to their psychological state.

The question is: why would a depressed pilot choose suicide by passenger carrier? In the case of a family, it might be that the father decided, that he didn't want his wife and kids to live out their lives in sorrow, knowing dad offed himself, so he decided to take out the entire kit and kaboodle. But why kill a hundred or more complete strangers along with yourself?
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Old 01-07-2023, 09:05 AM
 
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Guy wrecked a perfectly good Tesla!

I just wish these suicidal maniacs would just kill themselves first then worry about taking others with them second!
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