Can Detroit ever make a comeback??? (Rochester Hills, Rochester: high crime, neighbourhoods, university)

[keraT]

Originally Posted by Willnj

. Diverting a portion of city investment from downtown to the neighborhoods would be a good start.

I think diverting city investment from downtown to the various neighborhood is a terrible idea. It will leave all projects/area half ***** & will not draw population to anywhere. No at least people want to be downtown, midtown and investment is spilling over into NewCenter and North End. One neighborhood at time is a better approach, Detroit is too big to manage at one go.

[m1dwestcon]

I don’t get the single minded focus on the city of Detroit. The Detroit metro area is really nice, Detroit has some of the best suburbs in the Midwest on par with Chicago and as a metro area it’s a much better place than Cleveland where I grew up (Shaker Heights) even though the city of Cleveland itself is marginally better. I’ve lived in Cleveland, Chicago and Detroit and I’ll pick Detroit every time.

[knoxfordguy]

Look at the revitalization of Brush Park. It's amazing. New developments beside restored brick mansions. Very interesting juxtaposition.

[Dangerous-Boy]

how's the passenger rail situation?

[usroute10]

Originally Posted by Dangerous-Boy

how's the passenger rail situation?

There is no rapid transit, no subway, no commuter rail. There is Amtrak service to Chicago. One cool thing is that you can drive (or take the Tunnel Bus) across the river to Windsor, Ontario, Canada, and take a train to Toronto on Canada's VIA Train service. The ride is only 4 hours

[personone]

As people have mentioned, Detroit already has the bones for becoming a great city. The suburbs are top notch. Downtown has seen a lot of investment. It just needs to spread. Wayne State and some of the universities seem to be expanding, which can revitalize. I do worry about the impacts of COVID. So many independent businesses and the impact on poverty will likely slow things (although this is a problem across the country and not specific to Detroit). Assuming there is a relatively quick bounce back from COVID, which is possible given that vaccine rollout has begun, Detroit should be able to continue to bounce back.

[drro]

When opening Youtube, it showed me this video of the West side of Detroit recorded on New Years Eve a few weeks ago. I wasn't even searching for Detroit video's, it was just there. It reminds me of Cabrini Green on New Years Eve. Would it be fair to assume parts of Detroit are improving but the West side not so much yet?

[f5fstop]

Now that Kwame is out of Jail, maybe he will come back and save the city!

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by drro

When opening Youtube, it showed me this video of the West side of Detroit recorded on New Years Eve a few weeks ago. I wasn't even searching for Detroit video's, it was just there. It reminds me of Cabrini Green on New Years Eve. Would it be fair to assume parts of Detroit are improving but the West side not so much yet?

And people ask why I moved from MI to UT/ID.


That was a good size rat in the beginning of the video; feed a family of three.

[Coldjensens]

1. everywhere in Michigan on new years eve you will hear heavy gunfire and/or fireworks. Unless you see the guns, you cannot tell from a video which is which. However all over the state, people go out an shoot their guns in the air at midnight. They want to celebrate and apparently do not have any fireworks handy. The problem is that the bullets eventually come down and can hurt someone if they happen to hit them in the head. In my experience it is not a s big a problem as it was in Southern California (Orange County), but it is a concern. i once got hit in the head by a once of a large firework. It hurt. I thought someone threw a rock at me.

2. f the sound of gunfire scares you, then Michigan is a bad place for you. We get a lot of gunfire where we live, espcially during duck and goose season. Shotguns make the loudest noise of any common gun, so it really sounds like a war zone (or at least what i expect a war zone sounds like - never been in one).

3. Every city in the country has bad/run down/neglected/decaying industrial areas. Being the former manufacturing capitol of the world, Detroit has lots of them. You cna also hnt around and find incredibly nice areas in Detroit. Propaganda videos can convey whatever they are looking for. They can make it look insanely awful or incredibly nice. They can even make it look like people are flying in outer space and shooting lasers at each other. Remarkably, having seen how incredibly realistic they can make things that are not what they appear, people still take videos at face value. It is pretty silly. Anyone who has been at a significant event and then seen the media version of it is aware that even news videos are phonied up. Random videos on U-tube posted for shock value have zero credibility. this may or may not be in Detroit. It may or may not be from this year (one thing to look for is modern jeep Rubicon and gladiators. If there are none, it is probably not current they are everywhere). I cannot make out where this is filmed. There are part of Detroit that definitely look similar (excpt the mid-rise buildings int he background).It is shot in several different locations. The Beginning looks somewhat like Del Ray which is being torn down for the New Gordie Howe Bridge and customs plaza, is really desolate. There are not make people who live there.

4. These ruin porn "Look How Shockingly Awful Detroit Is" videos were massively popular about ten years ago. This could be a left over, or it could be someone who cannot let go of the past. Yes there are still awful parts of Detroit, just like every other city, but the core of Detroit is awesome. Considerably better than most cities. That is why the popularity of those shock/ruin porn videos died out. People came to visit and discovered the City is really nice. They go to the places shown tin the video and find them restored. Or they find they are in parts of the city where you simply should not go (every city has such parts). Eventually they realize Detroit is just like every other city int he US, except a bit nicer than most and they get bored and go home and stop watching the shock videos.

5. It is funny to me that the people who are stuck in the past are generally people fomr the suburbs who have not been to Detroit for decades or people who moved away 10 or more years ago and cannot accept that it changes. to accpet this they woudl have to accept the missed a golden opportunity