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Old 12-02-2022, 08:33 PM
 
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What a sad story. Especially since she actually went back.

The piece here is a Bronzino painting.


Almost safe, she returned to Munich and lost her painting and her life
Identified as a Jew under the Nazi race laws, she soon was forced to sell her country estate. She also lost an art collection that included a painting, “Portrait of a Young Man with a Quill and Sheet of Paper,” that she had bought in 1927 and is now viewed as a master work.
Nazi officials then pressured her to help pay for construction of a camp that would later be used to send Jews to concentration and death camps.
https://artdaily.com/news/151967/Alm...e#.Y4auCHbMLcs
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Old 01-26-2023, 11:07 AM
 
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What a story, and thank you for posting. Your posts always educate.
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Old 03-11-2023, 06:21 PM
 
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It's always tragically amazing how many people didn't grasp the breadth and depth of the Nazi threat.
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Old 03-11-2023, 06:23 PM
 
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It's always tragically amazing how many people didn't grasp the breadth and depth of the Nazi threat.
Just tonight I was having a discussion with another Jewish friend. He was talking about evidence that proves that the Holocaust did happen. My advice was not to descend into the mud with deniers.
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Old 03-12-2023, 05:34 PM
 
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It's always tragically amazing how many people didn't grasp the breadth and depth of the Nazi threat.
This obituary, Traute Lafrenz, Last Survivor of Anti-Hitler Group, Dies at 103

is about someone who did grasp and depth of the Nazi threat. I don't know if this is the right thread in which to post it so it may wind up in History and/or Judaism. Excerpt:
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Traute Lafrenz, the last survivor of the White Rose, a resistance movement in Nazi Germany whose opposition to Adolf Hitler led to swift and ferocious Gestapo repression and the beheading of its leaders, died on Monday at her home in Meggett, S.C., near Charleston. She was 103.
Her son Michael Page confirmed the death.
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But the response to its activities, peaceful as they were, seemed to betoken the profound intolerance displayed by the Third Reich to any hint of opposition among Germans, even as it pursued the extermination of European Jewry and what it called “total war” against its adversaries.As the German Army faced crushing losses at Stalingrad in 1942 and 1943, the White Rose sensed mistakenly that military reverses would turn Germans against Hitler. The group’s fliers, quoting from Goethe, Schiller, Aristotle, Lao Tzu and the Bible, urged passive resistance and sabotage of the Nazi project.

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“We will not keep silent,” the fourth of the group’s six published leaflets proclaimed. “We are your guilty conscience. The White Rose will not let you alone.”
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For much of her life, Ms. Lafrenz was a follower of the theories of anthroposophy developed by the Austrian philosopher Rudolf Steiner. She was a leading figure in the American anthroposophy movement.
Her awareness of Nazism dated to her early teens, when the Nazis sought to impose changes on the education system after Hitler’s rise to power in 1933.
Would that more not have kept silent.
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:23 PM
 
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Just tonight I was having a discussion with another Jewish friend. He was talking about evidence that proves that the Holocaust did happen. My advice was not to descend into the mud with deniers.
I was watching some documentary on TV and wondering: There is so much evidence, how can anyone attempt to deny it? Do they imagine that millions of deaths were faked? Do they think that camp survivors tattooed themselves for the fun of it? Do they think that Eisenhower was in on the scam? Does it not occur to them that if the Holocaust hadn't happened, the Nuremberg accused would have defended themselves with that?
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:26 PM
 
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This obituary, Traute Lafrenz, Last Survivor of Anti-Hitler Group, Dies at 103

is about someone who did grasp and depth of the Nazi threat. I don't know if this is the right thread in which to post it so it may wind up in History and/or Judaism. Excerpt:

Would that more not have kept silent.

Actually, I posted about her in the History forum

The Last of the White Rose
https://www.city-data.com/forum/hist...hite-rose.html
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