Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Florida > Fort Myers - Cape Coral area
 [Register]
Fort Myers - Cape Coral area Lee County
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-22-2022, 08:17 AM
 
24 posts, read 24,710 times
Reputation: 41

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrightflyer View Post
I've heard the same from my grandparents who have been full-time residents of either Cape Coral or Ft. Myers via DC and Prince George's County since 1994. It was always a pain to visit in snowbird season when we would visit as kids. And now it seems to be a pain anytime of year as an adult that wants to simply visit family.

But now, whether it is my grandmother's outlook in her 80's or just the sheer number of people permanently moving to SWFL (Lee and Collier Counties in particular), all I hear are the same complaints from her every time I talk. "The 'snowbirds' don't go home. The traffic doesn't seasonally adjust anymore. The roads are crowded. I don't feel safe driving or going out to shop with the large number of people who are rude or inconsiderate." Paraphrasing there, but you get the gist.

As my grandparents are also staunch conservatives and play Fox News on repeat (for good or bad), they also complain about the people from liberal cities (looking at you NYC/NJ/CT, Chicago, and CA people ) fleeing their high taxes and cost burdens, but that they shouldn't expect those "liberal regulations" down here. Whatever that means...

--

Point being, to the OP, don't move. Not worth it with prices the way they are. If you really want to move in the future, which would be my only recommendation for going to SWFL - do it later to see if things plateau - I would consider buying land and determine when you want to move down on your schedule and budget. That way, you are not saddled with an overpriced home (new-build or resale), dealing with inflated construction costs, and not knowing if QoL and CoL will really balance out. Taxes will have to go up, likely property and sales tax since FL has no income taxes, to cover all the new residents and new infrastructure needed for supporting that population jump.

Worst that could happen is the land goes bust, but at least you won't be saddled with a house that you cannot sell outside a loss because the market dives. Doubt it will be like 2008, but I think people who bought between 2019 and today are going to be stuck for 3-5 years beginning the end of 2022 / beginning of 2023. Not a problem, unless you need to move inside that dip and can't cover the mortgage payoff. Of course, if you pay cash, not as big a problem if there is a market dip.

And if the market doesn't bust or plateau and you realize you don't want to live here, you can always sell the land at an appreciated price.
It seems that your grandparents are astute and lucid, and understand markets here. It is quickly becoming unbearable, and approaching being filled with obnoxious transplants who will soon affect the quality of life, social mores, social structure, tax rates/base, attitudes, and of course safety and mobility. No one can make this stuff up, it's real and unfolding before your eyes in practically every county, whether Lee, Collier, Sarasota, Manatee and others.


Sometimes change is good and inevitable, some "change" should be avoided. That's life.


It's a bit odd that short-timers and new comers/arrivals bristle about anyone pointing out this negative change - as if they don't want to hear or acknowledge the truth - worst yet, many actually champion and promote the march towards that negativity and transformation of obvious over-population.


Nay, your grandparents are awake and observant. It's out of hand.

Last edited by jack_m_roun; 03-22-2022 at 08:34 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-23-2022, 07:57 AM
 
17,310 posts, read 22,056,580 times
Reputation: 29668
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinC91 View Post
So My wife and I were talking about possibly moving to florida from ohio but seeing the pricing of the housing and the condition of the existing housing... Doesn't seem worth moving into a 800 sqft home for 180k...

My question is.. Is it worth doing that and would it be the cheaper option to buy land, Buy a double wide that would be big enough for my wife and I, 4 pets total, and possibly a child in the future. What else would i need to consider and think of price wise? Is there any hidden costs that people over think? I've never ventured into this sort of thing and we just purchased our first home 2 almost 3 years ago in ohio and honestly we don't like living up here anymore. The snow is terrible, the cold is terrible, its dark and grey out. No greenery or anything.

Moral of the story.

Cheaper to buy land + double wide and run electric/water/sewage? (depending on where in florida thats zoned for this)

or Buy a pre existing house/modular home?

Better get some insurance quotes on your double wide/modular home idea. You might find the cost of the insurance cancels out your savings on the actual home.

Oh, please watch my favorite video on Flariduh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad5paRXNWVg
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-06-2022, 08:24 AM
 
24 posts, read 24,710 times
Reputation: 41
True lol^
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-29-2022, 08:56 PM
 
1 posts, read 1,001 times
Reputation: 10
Hi. I do not know if thread is still active? Last thing I want to do is **** anyone off with my post after reading above. Please know I despise sh*#%y driving- I deal with it every day in Dallas and it sucks to hear it won’t be better. I am not aggressive necessarily, yet have zero tolerance for ignorance and aholes and have taught my 16 year old son how to really drive. I was both an 18 wheeler driver and a flight attendant. I have visited parts of Florida yet never Fort Myers. I have/was an elementary school teacher for many many years but had to stop due mainly to a totally unexpected heart condition. I am moving to Fort Myers out of financial need. My partner is a landscape architect and he has a huge opportunity here. I am not a snowbird. Never planned to move to Florida but hoping to make the best of it and a new chapter! Kind of scary- most of my life has been here in Texas. I also hear Floridians hate Texans. Great….
Okay, hopefully with that out of the way I won’t be too criticized. I am just wanting advice about where to live and where not to live. Honestly. I need to stay near Fort Myers Collegiate High School (same as college for my son). So can you rate MacGregor, Lehigh, San Carlos, SW Cape Coral..? And any others? It seems obvious Iona is very nice and parts of Cypress? ALSO- where to avoid?

Remember I need to stay close to the college. My don is not happening about this move but likes this school. I want him avoid the crap traffic as much as possible!

Thank you for any advice.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-02-2023, 11:30 AM
 
334 posts, read 662,802 times
Reputation: 433
I am really tired of people moving here to Florida expecting cheap land, no taxes, no traffic, great weather, and people kneeling at their feet for getting off the plane. It is what it is. There is a reason why almost 1000 people a day relocate here. It is not heaven on earth, nobody said it was.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-02-2023, 12:35 PM
 
27,218 posts, read 43,942,133 times
Reputation: 32297
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino1 View Post
I am really tired of people moving here to Florida expecting cheap land, no taxes, no traffic, great weather, and people kneeling at their feet for getting off the plane. It is what it is. There is a reason why almost 1000 people a day relocate here. It is not heaven on earth, nobody said it was.
And why about 900 of the 1000 who move here wind up leaving the state or pushing natives out. They always miss mentioning the NET relocation numbers somehow.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Florida > Fort Myers - Cape Coral area
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top