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Old 01-19-2022, 01:00 AM
 
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hispanic just means someone from a spanish colonized nuvo-terre country.
ones ethnicitys can be like:
domincan
venezuelan
honduran


and their race could be something like:
black
caucasion
morena


they would all be considered hispanic.


food for thought, a mexican (mostly caucasion mestizo native descent from bering strait asian migration) needing a heart transplant, genetically speaking is more likely to find a suitable donor in japan rather than the domincan republic (about half african slave descent).
By definition, Filipinos would also be Hispanic. Many have Spanish surnames and the language has Spanish influence, with the Philippines being a Spanish colony for over 300 years.

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Old 01-19-2022, 05:27 AM
 
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By definition, Filipinos would also be Hispanic. Many have Spanish surnames and the language has Spanish influence, with the Philippines being a Spanish colony for over 300 years.
yeah but the philippines aint in america.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 06:17 AM
 
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yeah but the philippines aint in america.
Did someone say the colonies or "Hispanics" have to be in America? I didn't see that anywhere. The word Hispanic BTW comes from the Roman (Latin) name of the Iberian peninsula being Hispania, which includes Spain and Portugal, which was a colony of Rome. From Hispania, later came the name España/Spain.

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Old 01-19-2022, 06:42 AM
 
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From Hispania ...
From Hispana came Hispaniola and (much later) Hispanic LINK
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When Columbus took possession of the island in 1492, he named it Insula Hispana in Latin[15]
and La Isla Española in Spanish,[16] both meaning "the Spanish island". Las Casas shortened the name to Española,
and when Peter Martyr detailed his account of the island in Latin, he rendered its name as Hispaniola.[16]
 
Old 01-19-2022, 07:13 AM
 
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Did someone say the colonies or "Hispanics" have to be in America? I didn't see that anywhere. The word Hispanic BTW comes from the Roman (Latin) name of the Iberian peninsula being Hispania, which includes Spain and Portugal, which was a colony of Rome. From Hispania, later came the name España/Spain.

It's useless to argue about what it means to be a "hispanic". There's no concrete definition. It means NOTHING to be "hispanic". People can invent whatever they want - and typically they make it up as they go along.

The only thing that needs to be understood in the context of this genealogy forum is that it's not a categorization that historically existed in the United States. There were no "hispanics" before the 80s.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 07:57 AM
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Hispanic refers to being born in a country that Spanish is the primary language. All Latinos are not Hispanic and vice versa. Brazilians are not Hispanic but Latino. If you are from Spain, you are Hispanic but not Latino.


This would not be the case in Spain these classifications do not make any sense in most of the world. Hispanic and Latino is defined different in Spain.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 08:13 AM
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It's useless to argue about what it means to be a "hispanic". There's no concrete definition. It means NOTHING to be "hispanic". People can invent whatever they want - and typically they make it up as they go along.

The only thing that needs to be understood in the context of this genealogy forum is that it's not a categorization that historically existed in the United States. There were no "hispanics" before the 80s.
This applies to the USA there is a relatively clear understanding of what Hispanic means on the Iberian peninsula and Latin America. But only in the USA is it ridiculously twisted to mean all sorts of things.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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Did someone say the colonies or "Hispanics" have to be in America? I didn't see that anywhere. The word Hispanic BTW comes from the Roman (Latin) name of the Iberian peninsula being Hispania, which includes Spain and Portugal, which was a colony of Rome. From Hispania, later came the name España/Spain.
good point. i just never considered spanish persons to be hispanic (only the nuvo-terre persons they colonized).
 
Old 01-19-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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good point. i just never considered spanish persons to be hispanic (only the nuvo-terre persons they colonized).
Strictly speaking, the term "Hispanic" would include everyone who's ancestry is Spanish or from one of the many Spanish colonies from the Southwestern United States to Chile.

The term "Latino" would include all Latin Americans including Brazilians who are of Portuguese and not Spanish descent, but would not include Spaniards from Spain.

 
Old 01-19-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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Strictly speaking, the term "Hispanic" would include everyone who's ancestry is Spanish or from one of the many Spanish colonies from the Southwestern United States to Chile.

The term "Latino" would include all Latin Americans including Brazilians who are of Portuguese and not Spanish descent, but would not include Spaniards from Spain.

FYI,
the term latino was used in Europe to refer to Portugal, Spain, France, Italy and Romania


Latin Axis (World War II)

The Latin Axis was a proposed alliance between European Latin countries during the Second World War. This project was proposed to Italy by Romanian politician Mihai Antonescu, who served as Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister during World War II, under Ion Antonescu. The alliance would have included Romania, Italy, Vichy France, Spain, and Portugal. As a consolidated bloc in a region of German weakness, he hoped that it might become a significant counterweight to the Reich. Germany supported the proposal for the Latin Bloc during World War II and German propaganda assisted Italian propaganda in promoting the bloc.[1] However, the alliance failed to materialize.[2] Germany's Führer Adolf Hitler promoted the Latin Bloc and in October 1940 travelled to Hendaye, France, on the border with Spain to meet Franco with whom he promoted Spain forming a Latin bloc with Italy and Vichy France to join Italy's fight against the United Kingdom in the Mediterranean region.[3]

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