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Portland is highlighted because I got this from one of their news sources.
This is not correct. Miami is more than 11% white. Just because someone speaks Spanish as a first language doesn't make them Non-white if they are in fact white.
This just shows how ignorant many of us in the US are of other American (and I mean North, Central and South American) cultures and people.
They might have been meaning "white alone" as "White Hispanics" are sometimes not counted as white. At one time Italians and Greeks weren't deemed "white" either.
I suppose the justification is that Hispanics are of a different culture and, even with Cubans, are likely of some non-white ancestry. It could be argued this is rather silly. Many Quebecois have at least some American Indian ancestry, and are of another culture, but a town in Vermont with lots of French-Canadians would likely be listed as "white alone." However part of it is identification. Many Hispanics, even if there as white as can be, identify as Hispanic. Perhaps more oddly I read somewhere that like 70% of Spanish-Americans, as in from Spain, identify as Hispanic.
Interestingly people from Portugal, and even Brazil, generally do not identify as "Hispanic" as they don't have Spanish ancestry. So a Brazilian of significant black ancestry could, I would think, identify in the US as "white alone" whereas a full-German Mennonite from Mexico could be "Hispanic" if they identify as such. Hispanic is a very broad identity as Hispanics can be of any race or racial mixture and be of over a dozen nationalities.
They might have been meaning "white alone" as "White Hispanics" are sometimes not counted as white. At one time Italians and Greeks weren't deemed "white" either.
I suppose the justification is that Hispanics are of a different culture and, even with Cubans, are likely of some non-white ancestry. It could be argued this is rather silly. Many Quebecois have at least some American Indian ancestry, and are of another culture, but a town in Vermont with lots of French-Canadians would likely be listed as "white alone." However part of it is identification. Many Hispanics, even if there as white as can be, identify as Hispanic. Perhaps more oddly I read somewhere that like 70% of Spanish-Americans, as in from Spain, identify as Hispanic.
Interestingly people from Portugal, and even Brazil, generally do not identify as "Hispanic" as they don't have Spanish ancestry. So a Brazilian of significant black ancestry could, I would think, identify in the US as "white alone" whereas a full-German Mennonite from Mexico could be "Hispanic" if they identify as such. Hispanic is a very broad identity as Hispanics can be of any race or racial mixture and be of over a dozen nationalities.
There are plenty of Cubans with significant Black ancestry, so it is not silly to not lump all Cubans into the White category.
This table doesn't even have the populations right for the core cities, so how is anyone supposed to get anything useful out of this data?
It's from 2007, so the populations might be slightly more with 2010 data. But why don't provide us the exact correct populations for each city on that list if you're so concerned and have the time available...
There are plenty of Cubans with significant Black ancestry, so it is not silly to not lump all Cubans into the White category.
I know that and I wasn't meaning all Cubans should count as white. I was making a comparison to other groups. A French Canadian who is one-eighth or even one-quarter American I think would more likely be "white alone" than a Cuban who is one-eighth black. Many "White Americans" are one-eighth non-white.
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Also only 500,000 Mexicans have some German ancestry, out of a population of 113 million. So less than 1% of Mexicans have German ancestry.
I didn't know it was that low, but we get far more Mexicans than we do Argentines or the like. So I think it's likely German-Hispanics in America are largely/mostly Mexican. (Brazilians are not counted as Hispanics, regardless of racial admixture, unless they choose to be counted as such. So I believe they would be either "Black", "Japanese", or "White Alone.")
I know that and I wasn't meaning all Cubans should count as white. I was making a comparison to other groups. A French Canadian who is one-eighth or even one-quarter American I think would more likely be "white alone" than a Cuban who is one-eighth black. Many "White Americans" are one-eighth non-white.
I didn't know it was that low, but we get far more Mexicans than we do Argentines or the like. So I think it's likely German-Hispanics in America are largely/mostly Mexican. (Brazilians are not counted as Hispanics, regardless of racial admixture, unless they choose to be counted as such. So I believe they would be either "Black", "Japanese", or "White Alone.")
Considering that most Mexicans who cross the border into the U.S came from poverty back in their home country, not too many of them are going to have some German in them. You are not going to find a lot of Mexicans in East Los Angeles or El Paso with German sounding last names.
Considering that most Mexicans who cross the border into the U.S came from poverty back in their home country, not too many of them are going to have some German in them. You are not going to find a lot of Mexicans in East Los Angeles or El Paso with German sounding last names.
Although not German there was a Mexican guy in my small town with an English-sounding name like "Lee Smith."
Approximately 1.78% of people with the surname "Braun" are Hispanic. Around 5% of those with the surname "Bernard" are Hispanic, but I don't know that that's a German name. Perhaps more intriguing the surname "Chan" is more common among Hispanics than it is among any non-Asian group. "Wong" is more common among Hispanics than any single-race non-Asian slot. Although Asian-Hispanics is a different issue.
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