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Location: Metro Atlanta (Sandy Springs), by way of Macon, GA
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Originally Posted by Columbuskidd92
I don't understand this thread. You will find a white person in the south with an accent,before you will find one with a black person.
Why is this? Mainly because many of the whites in the south were raised in rural areas. Blacks were raised in the city.
How can you be in the deep south, especially Columbus, GA, and say this? As Annie_himself said...rural counties in the deep south have tons of black people. Some of the blackest counties by % in the NATION are near Columbus, GA and are very rural. They're some of the most rural counties in the state. Blacks being only in or near urban areas doesn't apply down here, you should know that.
I drive back and forth from Macon to Columbus several weekends and all you see are black kids walking along that back road in Geneva and Box Spings (Talbot County).
Perhaps it isn't Southern at all but just Black.You might notice that some Mexicans and Native Americans also have a way of speaking which blends their own language with the way American English is spoken. We have Linguistic Diversity in America . Some Scholars in Linguistics have shown that much of what is considered "Black dialect" can be traced to Slaves Picking up language from lower class Whites and Irish indentured servants with whom they lived in close proximity to. I am not sure if I have ever heard some one say that that JFK spoke in a Northeastern accent.
Not anyone I know from Chicago and certainly not Lupe Fiasco, Common, Kanye West, Twista, or Da Brat.
Kanye yes, Lupe kinda, Twista kinda, Da Brat kinda, Common not really. They may not sound as country as TI, but the way certain words are pronounced sound similar to Southern dialect. Same with Dwade, Jennifer Hudson, Lisa Reye.
How can you be in the deep south, especially Columbus, GA, and say this? As Annie_himself said...rural counties in the deep south have tons of black people. Some of the blackest counties by % in the NATION are near Columbus, GA and are very rural. They're some of the most rural counties in the state. Blacks being only in or near urban areas doesn't apply down here, you should know that.
I drive back and forth from Macon to Columbus several weekends and all you see are black kids walking along that back road in Geneva and Box Spings (Talbot County).
What about rural areas in North Georgia,that are mostly white? I just don't think you can bring up a conversation like this without looking at the state demographics.
According to the 2010 U.S. Census, Georgia had a population of 9,687,653. In terms of race and ethnicity, the state was 59.7% White (55.9% Non-Hispanic White Alone), 30.5% Black or African American, 0.3% American Indian and Alaska Native, 3.2% Asian, 0.1% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, 4.0% from Some Other Race, and 2.1% from Two or More Races. Hispanics and Latinos of any race made up 8.8% of the population
Black 2010-2,950,435
White 2010-5,787,440
Not Hispanic,White 2010-5,413,920
American Indian and Alaska Native 2010-32,151
Asian 2010-314,467
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 2010 -6,799
Two or More Races 2010-207,489
Hispanic or Latino Origin 2010-853,689
Last edited by Columbuskidd92; 02-25-2013 at 07:10 AM..
For me and many other NATIVE New Yorkers (by the way I'm a fifth generation Black/Latino Brooklynite) we pronounce Ask this way. Regardless of race, you should know, from a New Yorkers perspective ask was always pronounced this way and I don't know why but I can't change that now. Go look at older movies you'll find Greeks, Italians, Latinos, etc pronouncing it this way because that's what's said here. Also, I'm not talking about the new people from Ohio moving into Manhattan and Brooklyn either. . . .
Take a look, a brief history lesson since us Americans never research anything, yet always think we know what we're talking about. . .
You should know by now there's a difference in an accent and saying certain words (which in all actuality isn't limited to just Black people). I'm sorry but that term 'AAVE' (which is idiotic to begin with) is just another form of a Southern accent. Many Blacks up north, admittedly, say certain words that originated from the south, though I can't see the distinction between an 'AAVE' accent and a southern accent. Pronunciation plays a huge role in all of this to be quite honest and that's where accents and dialects come into the discussion.
The way I say "Morning" "Talk" Coffee" "Door" "All" "Here" and other words daily, is completely different than someone in the south and that goes for a lot of Black/White/Latino people in New York. Every time I leave New York people seem to always ask "What part of New York are you from?". . . . That's when you know you have an accent.
So glad somebody already brought this up. None of my black friends in NY sound anything like a Southerner, and Ive never met a black NYer who didnt have a NY accent. Our accent is pretty easy to pick up on.
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