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I have to ask, how much did MLK really achieve? Its now 2020, racism is STILL a huge problems in the US...have people really changed that much? I dont think they have.
We may not have separate white and black seating in restaurants, water fountains, bathrooms, etc, but racism is still justified in many other ways today, that are just as bad or worse...
I mentioned in another thread, drug laws STILL exist...when originally they were created to be used against certain minorities, who in their right mind supports drug laws today? LOL Just imagine if stores still had white and black bathrooms, that would be national news, and yet every state in the country, aggressively pursue drug crimes, its actually gotten 100X tougher since the days it was created...what does that tell you about racism today?!!
Heres a good example scenario....lets say there is a white guy buying heroin on a street corner...on the other corner, there is a black guy buying cocaine...who do you think police are going to pursue first?
This...police brutality (blacks killed by police twice as much as whites), systemic racism, marginalization of the poor, growing gaps between the rich and poor, Covid 19...how youth can even socialize/date in the Covid era?, massive unemployment/hunger/lack of medical care , the realization that the youth of today won't have the carefree ways we had, an evaporating American Dream for many along with lack of leadership in a divided selfish America many with the wrong "us" versus "them" attitude...not willing to unite for all... just some of the reasons for the protests. No constructive change in society as well as desperation/hopelessness of today's youth with nothing to lose sometimes leads to desperate measures and violence...which gets the news press and attention.
Last edited by Fisherman99; 06-02-2020 at 12:21 AM..
Take note: the rioters are not senior citizens with cane or riding wheel chairs.
Take note: the rioters are not your average mother or father working for a living.
Take note: the rioters are not your average goal driven young adult.
What are the goals of the young and clueless?
aimless wandering for many...........a place of belonging even if unlawful.
Take note: the rioters are not senior citizens with cane or riding wheel chairs.
Take note: the rioters are not your average mother or father working for a living.
Take note: the rioters are not your average goal driven young adult.
What are the goals of the young and clueless?
aimless wandering for many...........a place of belonging even if unlawful.
And for many -- a life to live at someone else's expense.
But in fairness, the world of work has also, in some instances, morphed into a demanding monster, driven by an ove-sheltered, demanding clientele who expect too much while living on transfer payments, and (probably) a clique of closeted sadists who get their jollies from too much power -- "cracking the whip" -- in positions of authority.
If "real" per person GNP is, just as an example, twice what it was in the Fifties, a responsible person ought to be able to live just as well while spending only half as much time in the regimen of the workplace; or we could go ta 4-shift, 6-hour workday (Time and 1/2 -- maybe only time and1/3 for overtime? -- absolutely, and strictly enforced; the "straight salary" trap should be more closely-policed. if not outlawed. And many younger workers will be eager to get it!)
But this would inconvenience all the "trailing spouses", youngsters, oldsters, and others who drive a "consumerist" economy -- and Korporate Amerika would be scared stiff of it, since middle managers and the like build their deceptions on promising "promotion" (straight salary, of course) to three, and delivering to one -- along with the opportunity to grow a new set of ulcers.
What I've just proposed is, admittedly, an oversimplification. But I think it points toward the cause of much of the discontent in the modern workplace; and remember, despite huge increases in productivity, the basic rules haven't been eased in roughly 100 years.
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This...police brutality (blacks killed by police twice as much as whites), systemic racism, marginalization of the poor, growing gaps between the rich and poor, Covid 19...how youth can even socialize/date in the Covid era?, massive unemployment/hunger/lack of medical care , the realization that the youth of today won't have the carefree ways we had, an evaporating American Dream for many along with lack of leadership in a divided selfish America many with the wrong "us" versus "them" attitude...not willing to unite for all... just some of the reasons for the protests. No constructive change in society as well as desperation/hopelessness of today's youth with nothing to lose sometimes leads to desperate measures and violence...which gets the news press and attention.
What are the goals of the peaceful protesters that marched in cities across the nation this past weekend in support of the murdered George Floyd while in Police custody?
Martin Luther King had goals, he had a dream of equality and he brought about change through his mostly peaceful approach during the Civil Rights marches and sit ins.
People can carry all the signs they want and march for hundreds of miles but when the majority of people and the majority of Police officers are on their side then what are they hoping to change with their protests?
I think we can all agree that Floyds death was terrible and tragic but what are the riots going to do for his memory? The looting and burning, the destruction of public and private property makes no sense and all it does is to reinforce the old stereotypes that young black men should be feared.
If the majority of us agree with the protesters, that Police should not come down as hard as some of them do on black suspects then what are the protests really about?
Excellent questions, not really answered by anyone in this thread so far, but that last bit pretty much answers your own question. My thoughts:
1. Quarantine frustration.
2. Genuine anger at the outrageous police treatment of Floyd.
3. Opportunism (free stuff, get your iPhone 11 now before someone else grabs it)
4. General dissatisfaction with life.
5. Incitement by clever extremist groups (pre-positioning piles of bricks, screaming into megaphones, kicking off the violence themselves)
6. Civil authorities distracted by virus pandemic, very reluctant to act, police holding off, no anti-riot strategy.
7. General public ambivalent about stopping the riots, out of sympathy for the cause.
Pre-pandemic, we had the best and most vibrant economy the nation has had in anyone's lifetime. GDP per capita was at all time highs. Unemployment was at all time lows. Employees had extreme negotiating power, as there were ~ 14 million open positions in the country for which employers could not find employees. Anyone with a pulse and a modicum of human capital could switch employers almost at will.
Once the Pandemic hit, our elected politicians reacted with "Ready! Fire! Aim!"
We've now seen the results of paying people not to work. The criminal & immoral action a Minneapolis cop - now correctly charged with Murder - has been co-opted by the progressive left. The riots have no meaning anymore - analogously, they are like the silly "women's marches" that had no goal either.
The sad thing is the politicians on the extreme left - Pelosi, Schumer, Biden et all - wish to reward the recalcitrant hodgepodge of protestors by giving them more money. Any parent of a toddler knows you don't reward a tantrum by giving the kid a cookie -- well, I should say, any good parent knows that.
We need to immediately stop paying people not to work.
Heres a good example scenario....lets say there is a white guy buying heroin on a street corner...on the other corner, there is a black guy buying cocaine...who do you think police are going to pursue first?
The white guy. They know he will probably take the plea bargain and it won't be much work. You can have the Black guy on film and he will want a trial, which would be more work for me.
I've read a few articles by public defenders. Whites take the plea much more often and that is why Blacks serve longer sentences for the same crimes.
Pre-pandemic, we had the best and most vibrant economy the nation has had in anyone's lifetime. GDP per capita was at all time highs. Unemployment was at all time lows. Employees had extreme negotiating power, as there were ~ 14 million open positions in the country for which employers could not find employees. Anyone with a pulse and a modicum of human capital could switch employers almost at will.
Once the Pandemic hit, our elected politicians reacted with "Ready! Fire! Aim!"
We've now seen the results of paying people not to work. The criminal & immoral action a Minneapolis cop - now correctly charged with Murder - has been co-opted by the progressive left. The riots have no meaning anymore - analogously, they are like the silly "women's marches" that had no goal either.
The sad thing is the politicians on the extreme left - Pelosi, Schumer, Biden et all - wish to reward the recalcitrant hodgepodge of protestors by giving them more money. Any parent of a toddler knows you don't reward a tantrum by giving the kid a cookie -- well, I should say, any good parent knows that.
We need to immediately stop paying people not to work.
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What are the goals of the protesters/rioters
