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This country is 233 years old and has seen both outstanding and counterproductive leaders from different parties, ideologies, and morals. So with 18 Republicans, 15 Democrats, and 10 others (Whigs, Democratic Republicans, and an Independent), which party do you believe has been the most beneficial to our country's success? Take into consideration both the party's presidents, while the "others" are subject to debate for you all to decide which party they represented the closest.
Keep in mind the party name switch too. Are we to look at this as just by name, or by the ideology behind each President as say, conservative vs. liberal?
Keep in mind the party name switch too. Are we to look at this as just by name, or by the ideology behind each President as say, conservative vs. liberal?
More of the ideologies that best represent today's parties.
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Let me see~ we currently have the liberal~ or tax and spend party
then we have the neoconservative party~ or the borrow and spend party
After being a conservative for years I find myself having to *embarassed* be for Obama as being the more conservative and the most able to possibly save our country after the last president tried to destroy our country!
I see both parties as roadblocks along the path to a better social system.
As for past presidents who have been effective: there are presidents from both parties who have done well and the same applies for not so well. It's generally the case that when a president can go beyond the binary party's brainwashing (from either side), he has a better chance of actually doing something useful.
This country is 233 years old and has seen both outstanding and counterproductive leaders from different parties, ideologies, and morals. So with 18 Republicans, 15 Democrats, and 10 others (Whigs, Democratic Republicans, and an Independent), which party do you believe has been the most beneficial to our country's success? Take into consideration both the party's presidents, while the "others" are subject to debate for you all to decide which party they represented the closest.
The "Greats" (presidents who made a major impact or who presided over prosperous times)
Independent: George Washington
D-R: Jefferson
D: Andrew Jackson, FDR, Woodrow Wilson, Truman, LBJ and Clinton
R: Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Reagan
Looks pretty even. It seems as though a president has about a 25% chance of being one who goes down in history as a great president, regardless of party affiliation.
Most of those listed are people who could easily be seen as the other party, ones who compromised and who put the nation's best interests in front of their own. Clinton and Reagan are debatable, but in the last 35 years they are the only who anyone would even consider "great" without being completely retarded (Bush Jr.), delusional (Carter) or ridiculous (Ford).
The "Greats" (presidents who made a major impact or who presided over prosperous times)
Independent: George Washington
D-R: Jefferson
D: Andrew Jackson, FDR, Woodrow Wilson, Truman, LBJ and Clinton
R: Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Reagan
Looks pretty even. It seems as though a president has about a 25% chance of being one who goes down in history as a great president, regardless of party affiliation.
Most of those listed are people who could easily be seen as the other party, ones who compromised and who put the nation's best interests in front of their own. Clinton and Reagan are debatable, but in the last 35 years they are the only who anyone would even consider "great" without being completely retarded (Bush Jr.), delusional (Carter) or ridiculous (Ford).
Good analysis.
I still love the joke about Clinton being a great Republican president. lol.
It's amazing how many people love or hate the guy solely upon party loyalty lines without looking at his legacy.
Seeing as the Democratic Republican party that was the party of Washington, Jefferson, and countless others changed over to just the Democratic party under Jackson, I'd say they have had the better Presidents. Of course they've been around for a lot longer as well.
Great Republican Presidents, Um, Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Ike. The rest didn't measure up, IMO.
Seeing as the Democratic Republican party that was the party of Washington, Jefferson, and countless others changed over to just the Democratic party under Jackson, I'd say they have had the better Presidents. Of course they've been around for a lot longer as well.
Great Republican Presidents, Um, Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Ike. The rest didn't measure up, IMO.
George Washington didn't belong to a political party when he was first elected. The Federalist Party wasn't founded until after the first Presidential election.
While Washington's cabinet included men who would create the Federalist Party (Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, etc.) and one who would found the Democratic-Republican Party (Thomas Jefferson), Washington himself never claimed any party affiliation.
Not only was Washington considered himself unaligned with either the Federalists or the Democratic Republicans, but he hoped that no political parties would form. Like other Americans of this time period, he believed that political parties, like those in the British government, caused unneeded factionalism and were a detriment to democracy.
Two people now have brought up Dwight D. Eisenhower as one of the best presidents.
Eisenhower led the troops to victory in Europe and was a nice grandfatherly figure as president...but what are his qualifications for being on your list of best presidents?
What puts Ike ahead of men like John Adams and James Polk?
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