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I hate to say it, but I feel like Winston is more desirable than Greensboro these days which could be another reason Hanes is doing well. Winston seems to be running uphill faster, the downtown area is much nicer (trendier, glitzy, safer) than downtown Greensboro (IMO) and it seems like more folks are moving to Winston/surrounding Forsyth County suburbs. Greensboro has been flying under the radar since the 1980's, the textile industry has vanished and the Greensboro Massacre probably scarred the city's image. I like both cities, but Winston appears to be on the verge of explosion. However, Greensboro appears to be making strides, but not to the point of catching up to Winston.
I hate to say it, but I feel like Winston is more desirable than Greensboro these days which could be another reason Hanes is doing well. Winston seems to be running uphill faster, the downtown area is much nicer (trendier, glitzy, safer) than downtown Greensboro (IMO) and it seems like more folks are moving to Winston/surrounding Forsyth County suburbs. Greensboro has been flying under the radar since the 1980's, the textile industry has vanished and the Greensboro Massacre probably scarred the city's image. I like both cities, but Winston appears to be on the verge of explosion. However, Greensboro appears to be making strides, but not to the point of catching up to Winston.
Agreed except I do not believe more people are moving to W-S than Greensboro.
I don't mind Four Seasons at all. However, it's true that the surrounding areas aren't too nice which may be a problem. In fact, the whole High Point Road area could be nicer IMO. Everytime I visit the mall, there's barely anyone there. It's like Triangle Town Center over in Raleigh, definitely going downhil. I've heard the same regarding Oak Hollow in High Point but I've never visited. I do like Hanes Mall, though. It's almost like the Streets at Southpoint (Durham) of the Triad. Definitely appears to be more vibrant, it might be attracting people from High Point and Greensboro who want to avoid Oak Hollow and Four Seasons. Friendly Center is also going uphill, always packed when I visit. Who knows what will happen in the future, but I hope for the best regarding Four Seasons.
I wouldn't bother with Oak Hollow mall. The mall has only 1 1/2 anchor tenants out of the former 5. My last pass through there it was easily 75% vacant.
I hate to say it, but I feel like Winston is more desirable than Greensboro these days which could be another reason Hanes is doing well. Winston seems to be running uphill faster, the downtown area is much nicer (trendier, glitzy, safer) than downtown Greensboro (IMO) and it seems like more folks are moving to Winston/surrounding Forsyth County suburbs. Greensboro has been flying under the radar since the 1980's, the textile industry has vanished and the Greensboro Massacre probably scarred the city's image. I like both cities, but Winston appears to be on the verge of explosion. However, Greensboro appears to be making strides, but not to the point of catching up to Winston.
I would agree to a certain extinct, on the fact that it is more trendier, As it should be. Winston Salem is the city of the ARTS,While Greensboro is the city of Entertainment. As for the population, no, That is the complete other way around. Why 4 seasons is doing so badly, is not because of desirability of Greensboro as a whole,it has nothing to do with that. It's because the mall is now in a predominantly Ghetto area that worsens by the day. The city is trying to change that by taking back high point road.So UNCG can Build all the shiny new big Buildings along that clogged atery if they like, but that area as a whole is loss. What is helping Greensboro and it's desirability factor, is friendly center. Although much more upscale than 4 seasons...more likened to that of the north hills area of Raleigh. Stores are migrating from the mall to Friendly because that area is exploding with growth, The mall is dying due to the Area and Friendly. it's just a case of being in the bad place at the wrong time. But it's a beautiful mall and i sure hope they can save it.
Hanes mall is in the right place at the right time.
Hanes benefits from not butting up to residential neighborhoods. While this may not stop people from doing no good it's harder to do and then try to escape in all that traffic.
This same problem plagues the Palladium in High Point. It was fine until apartments were built on the property and then teens began to loiter around the theatre. Last time I was there it seemed to be under control.
I was photographing MLK Day last year at Four Seasons and made several passes around the mall. I don't know what the income is but most of the spaces were occupied. Certainly no where near the vacancy of Oak Hollow Mall. So I don't get all of the down-in-the-dumps I read here.
Hanes benefits from not butting up to residential neighborhoods. While this may not stop people from doing no good it's harder to do and then try to escape in all that traffic.
This same problem plagues the Palladium in High Point. It was fine until apartments were built on the property and then teens began to loiter around the theatre. Last time I was there it seemed to be under control.
I was photographing MLK Day last year at Four Seasons and made several passes around the mall. I don't know what the income is but most of the spaces were occupied. Certainly no where near the vacancy of Oak Hollow Mall. So I don't get all of the down-in-the-dumps I read here.
When a major anchor of a mall goes out(in this case moves) it's now a time to start worrying about the well being of the mall. i really do hope it does not go under. meanwhile at friendly, Lululemon is about to open, and i'm hearing talks of Dolce & Gabbana being the new tenants of the old Old Ann Taylors.
A Dolce and Gabbana. Really?? D&G would be by far the highest end store in the region. This is the type of store that you expect to see only in malls anchored by Neiman Marcus and Saks. If CBL is able to land such a tenant I will have a new found respect CBL properties as a whole.
As far i can tell, it could just be hear say, but iv'e heard it from multiple people who are close with or live in the friendly area. But still, take that with a grain of salt.
A Dolce and Gabbana. Really?? D&G would be by far the highest end store in the region. This is the type of store that you expect to see only in malls anchored by Neiman Marcus and Saks. If CBL is able to land such a tenant I will have a new found respect CBL properties as a whole.
Me too, especially after their disastrous mismanagement of Oak Hollow Mall.
I was at hanes mall this weekend and there were ALOT of empty storefronts in the mall. I hope management has plans to fill those empty stores quick
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