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Old 06-02-2023, 11:44 AM
 
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I've had fruit thrown at me in Waikiki and I'm a nondescript white, just happened to be there. Blacks have even more aggression taken out on them. They get the message loud and clear. When I left my job, I engineered it so 3 blacks were in a somewhat power position. I figured they'd be so grateful they wouldn't screw it up and would work with each other. Whites don't work with each other.
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Old 06-02-2023, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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I've had fruit thrown at me in Waikiki and I'm a nondescript white, just happened to be there. Blacks have even more aggression taken out on them. They get the message loud and clear. When I left my job, I engineered it so 3 blacks were in a somewhat power position. I figured they'd be so grateful they wouldn't screw it up and would work with each other. Whites don't work with each other.
Yet white people created Western Civilization, for which the entire world benefits today.

Remind me who it is that kills their fellow tribe members, endlessly, worldwide.

Is it white men? Maybe not.
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Old 06-02-2023, 09:08 PM
 
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Yet white people created Western Civilization, for which the entire world benefits today.
Boy oh boy is that arguable … define *benefits* …. Or nevermind I guess.
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Old 06-02-2023, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Yet white people created Western Civilization, for which the entire world benefits today.

Remind me who it is that kills their fellow tribe members, endlessly, worldwide.

Is it white men? Maybe not.
The history of the world is rife with examples of cultures killing each other and others. Every race.
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Old 06-02-2023, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Boy oh boy is that arguable … define *benefits* …. Or nevermind I guess.
Much of the world's population is either actively migrating or trying to migrate. Where are they headed? Africa? Central America? Middle East?

Obviously not. They are all trying to get to Europe or America.

Why does this happen since white people are constantly vilified as the enemy of everyone else?

Maybe we aren't as bad as they claim?
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Old 06-02-2023, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I've had fruit thrown at me in Waikiki and I'm a nondescript white, just happened to be there. Blacks have even more aggression taken out on them. They get the message loud and clear. When I left my job, I engineered it so 3 blacks were in a somewhat power position. I figured they'd be so grateful they wouldn't screw it up and would work with each other. Whites don't work with each other.
What's the basis for this statement? I've not encountered racism during my years in Hawaii. Other blacks I speak to here talk of how at peace they are here.
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Old 06-02-2023, 10:11 PM
 
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Much of the world's population is either actively migrating or trying to migrate. Where are they headed? Africa? Central America? Middle East?

Obviously not. They are all trying to get to Europe or America.

Why does this happen since white people are constantly vilified as the enemy of everyone else?

Maybe we aren't as bad as they claim?
Unhealthy diabetics crave sweets … always trying to get more.

Is that a good thing?

Just because people want something doesn’t mean it’s good.

If you think our evolved western cultural lifestyles, which now have become the world’s benchmarks for *civilization*, are a great model for living I propose you aren’t using your intellect anywhere near your ability.
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Old 06-03-2023, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Unhealthy diabetics crave sweets … always trying to get more.

Is that a good thing?

Just because people want something doesn’t mean it’s good.

If you think our evolved western cultural lifestyles, which now have become the world’s benchmarks for *civilization*, are a great model for living I propose you aren’t using your intellect anywhere near your ability.
By all means, please share your vision of an alternative "cultural lifestyle" that would provide more success than Western Civ. to more people.

Also, where is your favored model being practiced today?
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Old 06-03-2023, 09:52 AM
 
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By all means, please share your vision of an alternative "cultural lifestyle" that would provide more success than Western Civ. to more people.

Also, where is your favored model being practiced today?
Why would lifestyles as practiced today prove superiority? And you’d need to provide your definition of “success”.

We’re going off topic, of course, but very briefly, my point can be at least partially summarized by noting that wars with weapons of mass destruction, relentless massive global pollution and toxins, gross disparities of security and wealth, obscene consumption of critical resources, psychological pressures to ‘achieve’ and conform and compete - to mention some particularly distinct aspects of modern civilization’s character - are pretty much all synonymous with *dysfunction*, not *success*.

And none of the above existed in primitive societies … and the anthropological bases and lessons for recapturing primitive simplicities without returning to the caves are quite available.

Greed and avarice, to say nothing of species narcissism, however, will continue to propel the self-defeating trajectory we are on.
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Old 09-13-2023, 07:59 PM
 
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Hawaii is a place that can have a lot of discrimination and racism, and Blacks will certainly feel it. Much depends on which island you are on. I married a Black gal from O'ahu (well, originally from the South Side of Chicago), and she didn't experience it too much over there, but did on the Big Island. The funny thing is that much of this doesn't originate w/ Hawaiians, it's often from the Portuguese locals (or Portigee as they were called). Of course, there aren't really that many native Native Hawaiians on the islands anyway. I believe it's the only state in the U.S. that has more citizens that live outside the state than in it.
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