08-31-2023, 03:22 PM
Location: Houston
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Can y'all please explain this trend in Houston toward "vibe dining"? Apparently it's some concept that plays loud music with a DJ while you're eating your dinner, and people basically dance at their tables?
Loud restaurants are already irritating and destroy the ability to socialize with your dining partners - why add loud music to the mix?
How is someone flailing their arms and hips and "twerking" over my dinner plate supposed to making dining enjoyable? It seems like a perfectly horrible time for anyone.
I bet the "music" is just some collection of electronic digitally-created noises than in no way resemble actual music, making it all that much worse.
I am skeptical that the food quality will match the prices, though perhaps people pay extra for this awful atmosphere?
Is this something unique to Houston or happening in other places? I sure hope that this isn't something Houston is a leader in, that would be a terrible embarrassment. But I keep seeing media articles about new "vibe dining" joints opening - there's an announcement of one just today, in Montrose. Why can't this stay confined to a very few "Sunday Funday" places?
09-01-2023, 10:37 AM
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Probably not the type of establishments that you’re talking about but dining becoming louder is not a Houston specific trend. Upscale dining has changed over the years. Morton’s steakhouse was once the desired ambiance. Now it’s Steak 48, Mastro’s and so forth. The 50s style diner was quiet and “elegant”. Modern Upscale dining has became vibrant and upbeat. Perhaps “flashy”
09-01-2023, 03:04 PM
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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ParaguaneroSwag
Probably not the type of establishments that you’re talking about but dining becoming louder is not a Houston specific trend. Upscale dining has changed over the years. Morton’s steakhouse was once the desired ambiance. Now it’s Steak 48, Mastro’s and so forth. The 50s style diner was quiet and “elegant”. Modern Upscale dining has became vibrant and upbeat. Perhaps “flashy”
The news of Neiman Marcus potentially being acquired by the Hudson Bay Co (Saks Fifth Ave) reiterates my point here. The trend in upscale hospitality has went a different direction. Neiman Marcus is being replaced by Saks. Morton’s for Steak 48/Mastro’s. It’s a more vibrant environment that’s desired today. Houstonian Hotel out for the Post Oak Hotel. It’s all gone a different direction.
Not sure about the twerking at tables part though. If you don’t mind me asking where you got that part from?
09-02-2023, 10:27 AM
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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Quote:
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LocalPlanner
Can y'all please explain this trend in Houston toward "vibe dining"? Apparently it's some concept that plays loud music with a DJ while you're eating your dinner, and people basically dance at their tables?
Loud restaurants are already irritating and destroy the ability to socialize with your dining partners - why add loud music to the mix?
How is someone flailing their arms and hips and "twerking" over my dinner plate supposed to making dining enjoyable? It seems like a perfectly horrible time for anyone.
I bet the "music" is just some collection of electronic digitally-created noises than in no way resemble actual music, making it all that much worse.
I am skeptical that the food quality will match the prices, though perhaps people pay extra for this awful atmosphere?
Is this something unique to Houston or happening in other places? I sure hope that this isn't something Houston is a leader in, that would be a terrible embarrassment. But I keep seeing media articles about new "vibe dining" joints opening - there's an announcement of one just today, in Montrose. Why can't this stay confined to a very few "Sunday Funday" places?
I think this is more of a Black cultural experience than just strictly Houston. There has been a recent trend of more Black owned restaurants popping up with a club like atmosphere or vibe dining restaurants. Honestly it's not my thing at all. Usually the food is mediocre, the music is extremely loud as you say, food overpriced, only valet parking,etc. They definitely put the vibe before dining for a reason. But I get it, these vibe dining establishments are geared mostly towards singles, 20 something year olds and people into the club lifestyle. Back in my younger days I probably would like these kind of spots way more than I do now.
I'm more laid back and a father of 2 in my late 30s so yeah I'm good on these type of spots.
But yeah Houston and Atlanta seem to be the 2 top cities for vibe dining scene right now. Just give me a nice mature Black owned restaurant w/ some low volume music in the background and not trying to overcharge for vibes and valet parking.
Here's a video of a female vlogger going to nothing but vibe dining spots in Houston.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WpRoyJOX0
09-04-2023, 01:56 PM
Location: Houston
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ParaguaneroSwag
The news of Neiman Marcus potentially being acquired by the Hudson Bay Co (Saks Fifth Ave) reiterates my point here. The trend in upscale hospitality has went a different direction. Neiman Marcus is being replaced by Saks. Morton’s for Steak 48/Mastro’s. It’s a more vibrant environment that’s desired today. Houstonian Hotel out for the Post Oak Hotel. It’s all gone a different direction.
It was more assuming - why would you pump loud, "thumping" dance music into a dining area if people aren't expected to dance? It doesn't make sense.
09-04-2023, 02:08 PM
Location: Houston
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I think this is more of a Black cultural experience than just strictly Houston. There has been a recent trend of more Black owned restaurants popping up with a club like atmosphere or vibe dining restaurants. Honestly it's not my thing at all. Usually the food is mediocre, the music is extremely loud as you say, food overpriced, only valet parking,etc. They definitely put the vibe before dining for a reason. But I get it, these vibe dining establishments are geared mostly towards singles, 20 something year olds and people into the club lifestyle. Back in my younger days I probably would like these kind of spots way more than I do now.
I'm more laid back and a father of 2 in my late 30s so yeah I'm good on these type of spots.
But yeah Houston and Atlanta seem to be the 2 top cities for vibe dining scene right now. Just give me a nice mature Black owned restaurant w/ some low volume music in the background and not trying to overcharge for vibes and valet parking.
Here's a video of a female vlogger going to nothing but vibe dining spots in Houston.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WpRoyJOX0
Oh I didn't know this was a Black culture thing, which as a middle-aged Anglo guy I know little to nothing about (as if you couldn't tell).
One of the places in that video was obviously a "Sunday Funday" type place, which I did know about as a gay man (though I've honestly not ever been to one). Another looked to be a bar, albeit perhaps one that has food (basically, a pub)? The others, I couldn't believe they were restaurants, they looked like nightclubs, the music and crowd noise was so loud you couldn't hear the narrator, dancing on the way to the restroom?, "good for photos"? Ugh, the appeal completely escapes me...and I bet they charge a pretty penny!
09-05-2023, 12:27 AM
Location: Houston
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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