09-03-2016, 08:37 PM
Location: Western North Carolina
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My wife and I just got back from visiting the Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks. As the south entrance to Yellowstone was closed due to wildfires, we took highway 22 out of Jackson, WY over the Teton Pass and highway 33 through the Teton valley. We fell in love with the Teton Valley, especially Driggs. We currently live in the Asheville, NC area, but in 8 to 10 years would like to retire to an area with less humidity and rain. We love the outdoors and are avid hikers. We like to eat organic natural foods. Our political views are slightly left of center. We have a live and let live attitude and are respectful of others beliefs. We are planning on making several more trips to Idaho over the coming years. Based on this would Driggs be a good fit for us? Also, what other towns might be a good fit? My only concern with Driggs is that the Winters might be a little too severe.
09-03-2016, 08:58 PM
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My wife and I just got back from visiting the Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks. As the south entrance to Yellowstone was closed due to wildfires, we took highway 22 out of Jackson, WY over the Teton Pass and highway 33 through the Teton valley. We fell in love with the Teton Valley, especially Driggs. We currently live in the Asheville, NC area, but in 8 to 10 years would like to retire to an area with less humidity and rain. We love the outdoors and are avid hikers. We like to eat organic natural foods. Our political views are slightly left of center. We have a live and let live attitude and are respectful of others beliefs. We are planning on making several more trips to Idaho over the coming years. Based on this would Driggs be a good fit for us? Also, what other towns might be a good fit? My only concern with Driggs is that the Winters might be a little too severe.
Hi fmors.
How about you searching for Driggs using the search engine in the upper right hand corner? An almost identical post was last updated on 8/26/2016. The last three threads, over the liast eight months should give you some answers. Driggs is expensive.
After you search those threads, then ask us more specific questions, especially in the Idaho Falls sub-forum.
I'm glad you were safe as you saw Yellowstone and the Tetons. Bonneville County, home of Idaho Falls, heas never had a fire the size of Henry's Creek. We don't usually get wildfires that last longer than 36-48 hrs. at the most. But this is the second driest summer in Bonneville County ever. That's just part of life in the West.
Happy reading; let us know your questions when you've reviewed the other threads
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09-03-2016, 09:54 PM
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Hi, fmors...
You're not the first to have done that! I've known folks who have wanted to move to Driggs after they've driven that road for 50 years now. Some made the move, others didn't, but they never forgot their first experience.
Winter here is what one makes of it. Driggs is most definitely winter country; most of the folks who move there are winter lovers, who like nothing more than getting out and playing in the snow.
For those who have never experienced a mountain winter, the only way to learn if one will love it is to spend some time doing it. I think that if you reserved a couple of week's stay and made a trip out in the dead of winter, you would learn all you need to know about it.
Most of your present reservations are just mental. "Severe" is not a fixed condition out here at all. In the minds of the people who live in Idaho, it has a different meaning than in North Carolina. I've spent time in N. Carolina in the winter, and winter there is totally and completely different than it is here, and especially so in Driggs.
MSR and I are both natives. While I speak only for myself, I learned long ago that winter is an easier season for me than summer is in many ways, and a season I look forward to, rather than dread.
It's easier to stay warm than it is to stay cool anywhere. if you get cold, all one has to do is add a layer onto what you're already wearing, but when it's 100º with 90% humidity, and you are down to bare skin and still hot, relief is much harder to find and maintain. Cold, to me, is energizing. Heat is energy sapping.
But that's me. My blood is probably thicker than yours, and I'm more tolerant to cold because it's more my natural state from a lifetime here. I've known folks who come to relish the cold after moving here, and folks who could never find tolerance for the cold, no matter how long they lived here.
Much of it is attitude, but about as much is truly physical. If a person's hands, for example, have never been numbed by the cold, naturally, when it happens, it's both a new sensation and an unpleasant one. And cold hands will stay cold until you find some way to relieve them. Learning to anticipate what will be the most troublesome things is something that only comes from experiencing them a few times.
But I can say this:
Until you have never walked out into an intensely sunny morning after a couple of days of dark days, clouds and intermittent snowfall, you will have never experienced the full glories of winter. It is a transformation of mind and spirit like no other.
Especially here, where the air and snow are so light and dry that the tiny frozen crystals of the snowflakes dance in the air, sparkling with the light of 1000 suns with each light movement against the intense blue of a winter sky.
09-03-2016, 10:33 PM
Location: Western North Carolina
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Thank you MSR and banjomike for your replies. I will continue to search and read about the small towns of Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. My wife likes the cold more than I do, but I have experienced severe cold temperatures as a kid in Milwaukee, WI, but my family left Milwaukee when I was 12 and moved to Savannah, GA. Basically what we are looking for is a mountain town readily accessible to hiking, snowmobiling and cross country skiing. We are drawn to the western states because of the natural beauty, cooler summer temperatures and low humidity. Where we live now there is plenty of hiking trails, but it is hard to get away from the people and the summers are just too hot and humid.
09-04-2016, 07:44 AM
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Investigate Island Park and Harriman State Park.
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09-04-2016, 08:56 AM
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Thanks volosong, I will. I remember driving through Island Park and seeing the signs for the State Park leaving Yellowstone on our way to Salt Lake City.. Very nice area. We really iked the town of West Yellowstone. It is very quaint.
09-05-2016, 09:40 AM
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Investigate Island Park and Harriman State Park.
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I strongly second what volosong wrote. Island Park and the Herrmann State Park are beautiful, easily accessible to YNP and the Tetons. Plus the COL is markedly cheaper than Driggs.
Trips to Rexburg to Walmart also aren't far away. Nor is Idaho Falls, the regional hub for commercial, medical and other.
Many from Idaho Falls have cabins in the Island Park area and go every weekend. Don't be fooled by the word cabins. Given the snow most homes in that area have A frame roofs, but the interiors range from rustic to elegant.
Definitely worth a closer look IMO.
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10-22-2016, 10:53 AM
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I'm the poster from 8/26 that asked about Driggs as a place to retire, and I got some great information about Driggs in general. You probably already read that post, but if not here is the link:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/idaho...s-id-your.html
We love the mountains in the summer, but want bigger city amenities, more civilization, and less snow in the winter. We aren't into sking like we used to be either. My brother's long time live in girlfriend, though, has a great cabin in Driggs that they mostly use in the winter (they do a lot of skiing and snowmobiling and live in Idaho Falls). It has a big deck and die for view of the Tetons (looks like one of Ansel Adams famous Teton phots from there), and while not thinking of relocating for retirement, we love that Driggs and may approach her to see if she'd be open to letting us rent the place for a few weeks each summer. She's never rented it out, but just has it for family. But they only got out there a few times last summer.
10-22-2016, 04:30 PM
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Every view along the west bench of the Tetons looks like an Ansel Adams photo.
Wyoming got the mountains, but Idaho got the best views of them.
10-24-2016, 10:59 AM
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You might also check the Star Valley area of Wyoming, and south of Jackson. Driggs is a nice little place, but I don't know that I could retire there personally. I've already done the four-hours round trip to do any shopping or to keep any appointments with specialists or even a decent dentist.
I think if I were in your shoes, I would look at some "fair-sized" cities in the west and look at the outlying areas. All of the cities I listed below have very sparsely populated outlying areas and towns where you're 20 minutes away from everything you'd need for services. All have plenty of mountain views and opportunities for recreation nearby... hiking, biking, lakes and streams, etc. "Fair-sized" is in quotations because these are all fairly small cities (except for Spokane) by eastern standards.
Bozeman, MT
Missoula, MT
Kalispell/Whitefish/Big Fork MT
Rapid City, SD (although slammed with tourists all summer)
Corvallis, OR
Salem, OR
Eugene, OR
Bend, OR
Spokane WA/CdA, ID
Leavenworth, WA
Boulder, CO
Grand Junction, CO
Evergreen, CO
Glenwood Springs, CO
If you're a property owner that will be selling in Asheville, any of these areas will be lower in price for real estate. Again, Driggs is great but there are so many other awesome places out west. Rexburg and ID Falls aren't really places I would look forward to traveling to for services. I've been there, done that since I used to have to drive two hours (in good weather) to Billings, MT (not exactly a gem of a place) to get anything not available at Walmart.
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People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)