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Old 03-14-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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I saw that WA has passed a measure in favor of permanent Daylight Saving Time. If that goes through (taking effect in November 2021), would North Idaho follow suit? Because NID is of course on PST, being linked to the Eastern WA economy (Spokane). And what about the rest of Idaho? Is there any debate about this? What would you prefer?

https://www.ktvz.com/news/oregon-was...ent/1055127513

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As daylight saving time is set to take effect in most of the U.S. this weekend, the Washington House has passed a measure that would make those later sunsets permanent in the state all year - if Congress allows it. Oregon is considering a similar move.The measure passed the chamber on an 89-7 vote Saturday and now heads to the Senate, which has its own bill that could come up for a vote in the coming days. The vote comes as more than two dozen states are considering measures to avoid the twice yearly clock change.
Both the Senate and House measures would only take effect if Congress passes legislation allowing states to observe daylight saving time year-round.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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I lived for years in Indiana and then AZ with no time change. I loved it. I support ending it everywhere.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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I lived for years in Indiana and then AZ with no time change. I loved it. I support ending it everywhere.
It served its purpose when we were a much more agrarian culture. But the argument for needing it as a solution to energy consumption is pretty thin considering we have enough surplus energy to start mandating 100% carbon-neutral sources in some states.

I know for our family it throws us out of whack biologically for at least a full week, with the kids all cranky and waking up at the wrong times. Eliminating it makes sense just from that perspective.

The real question is, do we join with the rest of Idaho and Montana, or do we stay with the West Coast? There are plenty of existing examples of multiple timezones in other states. Even Texas has El Paso in Mountain Time. But the question is, does CDA's corridor represent enough of an economic powerhouse to stand on its own time with the rest of Idaho, or does it need to continue to pull the rest of NID with it into Pacific Time?
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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It served its purpose when we were a much more agrarian culture. But the argument for needing it as a solution to energy consumption is pretty thin considering we have enough surplus energy to start mandating 100% carbon-neutral sources in some states.

I know for our family it throws us out of whack biologically for at least a full week, with the kids all cranky and waking up at the wrong times. Eliminating it makes sense just from that perspective.

The real question is, do we join with the rest of Idaho and Montana, or do we stay with the West Coast? There are plenty of existing examples of multiple timezones in other states. Even Texas has El Paso in Mountain Time. But the question is, does CDA's corridor represent enough of an economic powerhouse to stand on its own time with the rest of Idaho, or does it need to continue to pull the rest of NID with it into Pacific Time?
Funny thing I read last week. DSL didnt start or have anything to do with agriculture or farming, in fact..farmers were opposed to it. It started in Germany during WW1.
https://www.history.com/news/8-thing...ht-saving-time
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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Funny thing I read last week. DSL didnt start or have anything to do with agriculture or farming, in fact..farmers were opposed to it. It started in Germany during WW1.
https://www.history.com/news/8-thing...ht-saving-time
Dammit Misty... I thought I knew what I thought I knew.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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The Florida legislature is considering the same thing (matching the same in other tourist areas like Hawaii and Arizona). As a retiree, I'm all for it; who gets up while it's still dark anyway (?) --

However, my daughter informs me that the grandkids are already at the bus stop in the dark and it makes it tougher to get them up in the morning and down at night.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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So states can only opt out of DST without congressional approval. Washington state would avoid changing the clocks, but they're actually wanting to change time zones and be on Alaska Standard Time.

Given that Russia attempted permanent DST in 2011 - 2014 and it failed socially due to the extremely late mornings during winter, I wonder if it wouldn't be better for us to stay in permanent PST or MST?
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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Best is to be in the correct time zone, and forget the daylight savings time craziness.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Lakeside
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So states can only opt out of DST without congressional approval. Washington state would avoid changing the clocks, but they're actually wanting to change time zones and be on Alaska Standard Time.

Given that Russia attempted permanent DST in 2011 - 2014 and it failed socially due to the extremely late mornings during winter, I wonder if it wouldn't be better for us to stay in permanent PST or MST?
I live in WA and I’m not seeing anything about trying to change time zones onto Alaska standard time. Where are you seeing this?

ETA: never mind...I figured it out.

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Old 03-14-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I be happy if they ended it.

If they do, I'd like to see us move to MTN time. Dark would come awfully early in the winter otherwise.

Dave
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