Idaho is most moved destination 2 years in a row, will it change the state forever? (Boise: middle-class, apartment)

[harrishawke]

Sounds inevitable then...Boise already reminds me of a late 90s Portland. With the trajectory of Coeur d'Alene's real estate prices, likely a new retirement spot for Boomers, and older Gen-Xers.

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by harrishawke

Sounds inevitable then...Boise already reminds me of a late 90s Portland. With the trajectory of Coeur d'Alene's real estate prices, likely a new retirement spot for Boomers, and older Gen-Xers.

The entire state has become a retirement destination.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by banjomike

The entire state has become a retirement destination.

I concur with you on this 100%

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by Syringaloid

At least the opposite is happening in the states largest city. It is becoming more liberal and even more Democratic with the growth.

So your hope for the future is that Boise will be the new Portland?

[Mister Torgue]

Originally Posted by Cinema Cat

So your hope for the future is that Boise will be the new Portland?

I bloody hope not.

[Brother1]

This invading species syndrome is over blown. If people actually used city-data data, you find in Idaho is it's a transplant state. Many people come from elsewhere stay or move on. Every state has generational families I find it disappointing to hear people voice a bias towards families migrating to another state. Politically speaking the University in Boise is hatching as many brains of mush as UNLV and you could say all universities teaching the culture BS. To the OP: the state will have many more people, more money and more jobs that's a fact of life.

[Mister Torgue]

Originally Posted by Brother1

This invading species syndrome is over blown.

Says the person with CA listed as their location.

I find it disappointing to hear people voice a bias towards families migrating to another state.

Because either...

a) You're like these people we all keep referring to who want to change things, or
b) You don't understand what this is like seeing this in real time because you haven't experienced it first hand, or
c) Both of the aforementioned

Please do not take this as anything personal. It's a simple debate. Let's face it, historical and recent data pretty much proves our point for those of us who are concerned and who are "voicing our bias" as you put it. Is it all of the transplants? No, most certainly not. It is a majority of them, most likely yes. It darn well is over half at the minimum just based on what happens in short order after a large flood of them come in and settle down. Until you've experienced this first hand you don't know or have insight on it. I watched this first hand up close with Austin Texas and also with our close nearly-neighbor the state of Colorado via the I25 corridor (Pueblo to Fort Collins). It is a fairly destructive force this is. Just look at Austin, my goodness it is a terrible place and you couldn't pay me to live there. If this is what happens to Boise, with it turning in to Austin, Portland or Seattle then that is truly scary stuff and there's no denying it. Hell, Portland is trying very hard to be the worst big city in the country taking that crown from either Chicago or NYC and that is a shame because Oregon is a nice place to be overall.

Politically speaking the University in Boise is hatching as many brains of mush as UNLV and you could say all universities teaching the culture BS.

This is spot on. Almost all colleges are this way.

To the OP: the state will have many more people, more money and more jobs that's a fact of life.

And less liberty, less autonomy, less privacy and less quality of life for people who value these things. It is just what it is. Like you said, a fact of life. We don't have to like it or accept it, but it is there for consumption.

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by Mister Torgue

Hell, Portland is trying very hard to be the worst big city in the country taking that crown from either Chicago or NYC ...

Oh, I dunno. NYC and Chicago are pretty bad, but Detroit, Baltimore, and San Francisco all have pretty strong claims to the crown.

[Hrothgar]

Originally Posted by Brother1

This invading species syndrome is over blown. If people actually used city-data data, you find in Idaho is it's a transplant state. Many people come from elsewhere stay or move on. Every state has generational families I find it disappointing to hear people voice a bias towards families migrating to another state. Politically speaking the University in Boise is hatching as many brains of mush as UNLV and you could say all universities teaching the culture BS. To the OP: the state will have many more people, more money and more jobs that's a fact of life.

I have a bias against Californians leaving that dump they destroyed and coming to other states to continue their destruction. No, not only because it drives prices through the roof and displaces actual honest and decent Americans but also because everywhere the plague arrives everything changes. I am from Phoenix. Phoenix used to be great. Then 4 million Californians moved in and turned it into a trash heap carbon clone of Los Angeles, literally.

I've since leaving witnessed the exact same effect in Las Vegas and Salt Lake City. It is the same in Austin, Denver, Reno, St. George and Boise.

[banjomike]

I doubt any city is trying to be the worst, Mr. Torgue.

Most folks are content wherever they're living. Content or not, everyone who's living in any city has an investment in it of some kind, to some degree.

Residents who want to move aren't the majority of the people. The majority tend to find their lives are doing all right and like the city they live in.

If you're still planning to move here someday, I sure wouldn't be laying a curse like yours on Portland... there are really a lot of ex-Idahoans living there, and if Portland really is such a bad place, all those folks could be wanting to return back here.

For a fact, Boise is beginning to draw Portlanders. If they are looking at Boise, they will be looking at CDA, I.F., and Twin too. There are a lot of threads that bind Idaho, Washington and Oregon together pretty closely.