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Old 04-11-2014, 06:38 PM
 
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Mohamed approached a U.S. Border Patrol agent and recounted his story. He explained that he wanted to seek asylum, a classification of refugee status granted to people who arrive in the United States having fled persecution in their homeland. He immediately was handcuffed and placed in immigration detention: a cold, cramped cell at a privately owned and operated prison facility. Soon after, along with hundreds of other detainees, he was herded onto a cargo plane and transferred without explanation to a jail in Newark, New Jersey.

Detention and Deportation Await Those Seeking Asylum in America | Phoenix New Times

Sounds like a BETTER deal than being stuck in Somalia. It is what it is.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:38 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Mohamed approached a U.S. Border Patrol agent and recounted his story. He explained that he wanted to seek asylum, a classification of refugee status granted to people who arrive in the United States having fled persecution in their homeland. He immediately was handcuffed and placed in immigration detention: a cold, cramped cell at a privately owned and operated prison facility. Soon after, along with hundreds of other detainees, he was herded onto a cargo plane and transferred without explanation to a jail in Newark, New Jersey.

Detention and Deportation Await Those Seeking Asylum in America | Phoenix New Times

Sounds like a BETTER deal than being stuck in Somalia. It is what it is.
I gotta disagree here. My grandparents were all refugees and I think we need to treat asylum seekers and refugees more kindly than we do. Yes, detain them while they're being processed...but in humane, comfortable conditions. Treat them with dignity.

Also, someone who has fled from Somalia in fear of their life has, in my opinion, a pretty legitimate claim to asylum that should be investigated. In less than 8 months, too.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:45 PM
 
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Mohamed approached a U.S. Border Patrol agent and recounted his story. He explained that he wanted to seek asylum, a classification of refugee status granted to people who arrive in the United States having fled persecution in their homeland. He immediately was handcuffed and placed in immigration detention: a cold, cramped cell at a privately owned and operated prison facility. Soon after, along with hundreds of other detainees, he was herded onto a cargo plane and transferred without explanation to a jail in Newark, New Jersey.

Detention and Deportation Await Those Seeking Asylum in America | Phoenix New Times

Sounds like a BETTER deal than being stuck in Somalia. It is what it is.
So Mohamed gets detained but all the Panchos and Pablos get let in for free...
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:00 PM
 
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I gotta disagree here. My grandparents were all refugees and I think we need to treat asylum seekers and refugees more kindly than we do. Yes, detain them while they're being processed...but in humane, comfortable conditions. Treat them with dignity.

Also, someone who has fled from Somalia in fear of their life has, in my opinion, a pretty legitimate claim to asylum that should be investigated. In less than 8 months, too.
Point taken there. I'll admit that most of those "asylum seekers" in 2014 ain't for real IMHO.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:23 PM
 
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Point taken there. I'll admit that most of those "asylum seekers" in 2014 ain't for real IMHO.
The vast majority of current "asylum seekers" are from China...
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:24 PM
 
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Point taken there. I'll admit that most of those "asylum seekers" in 2014 ain't for real IMHO.
That is true, some aren't. But some are.

IBM is also correct that the Chinese are notorious for abusing the asylum system.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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And if I were to seek asylum in another country, how would I be treated there?
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Old 04-12-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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A very large portion of the asylum claims are shams. Elvira Arrellano is here again --- this time trying to claim asylum -- from a country that has democracy and more honest elections than our own!
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Old 04-12-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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This is one very well-known family given asylum here --- all because they were caught up in cartel activities. Unbelieveable how many of the Juarez cartel is living it up in the USA now, even on refugee handouts like free housing, free medical care, food stamps and much more. Be involved in violent murders and avoid justice through asylum in the USA. Beats being an illegal.

Cable: 10MEXICO294_a

Josefina Reyes, the mother of an alleged Juarez Cartel hit-man and drug trafficker, was killed January 3 by
gunmen in her hometown of Guadalupe, Chihuahua. Reyes became an outspoken opponent of the Mexican military's operations in Chihuahua after the army detained her son in 2008.

Alleged Sinaloa cartel gunmen murdered civic activist and former local politician Josefina Reyes Salazar January 3 in
Guadalupe, Chihuahua, a small community 20 miles east of Ciudad Juarez. Reyes was the mother of purported Juarez Cartel hit-man and drug trafficker, Miguel Angel "El Sapo" Reyes Salazar. Although press reports vary, it appears that a group of armed gunmen entered the "Barbacoa Marios" restaurant and attempted to kidnap Josefina Reyes. When she resisted, they shot her in the head saying, according to some witnesses, "You think you're so [expletive] because you belong to those organizations?"

In September 2009, the army arrested the same son when they captured high level Juarez Cartel operative Jose Rodolfo "Rikin" Escajeda. (Note: Escajeda is awaiting extradition to the United States on drug charges. He is also believed to be responsible for the 2009 murders of Amcits Benjamin LeBaron and Luis Widmar (ref. A). End Note.)
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Canada deals with this in a slightly different way.

We send Canadian Immigration officers to the refugee camps overseas, to interview and select potential refugee applicants, We also do medical exams, and educational testing, in the camps. Applicants are selected based on a number of criteria, including having a clear criminal back ground checks, and blood testing for infectious disease.

Canada will not accept a refugee claimant that shows up at our borders, who was in a "safe country " previous to arriving in Canada. That is why we don't accept refugees from the USA, any more. The USA also does not accept refuges from Canada.

We DO support and help those that we have brought to Canada, with adult education classes, housing and furniture, and English language courses, and employment training courses. This continues for five years from the date of arrival in Canada. Medical care and child immunization and infant heath care is provided for free. Canada accepts about 50,000 refugees a year. It works.

Our legal immigration to Canada is about 250,000 persons a year. About 60 percent of those who are approved hold at least one four year University degree, and all Immigrants to Canada must be able to read, speak and write in either English of French, to be approved to come here. They must also have at least a years' worth of cash in the bank, to support themselves, and their family, for a year in Canada, before they can be approved as Permanent Residents, in Canada. For a family of four people that is about $40,000 CDN. We grade applicants, based on a score system, that rates their education, work history, language ability, health, and if Canada "needs that type of skill set ". The applicant must score at least 70 points, out of a possible 100, to even get a look, and the higher scores get first approval. We want the best applicants we can get.

We have a yearly list of the "most needed job skills in Canada " that we want to fill, quickly. Every one of the jobs on that list is a professional occupation. We don't even accept "unskilled workers " such as truck drivers or bar tenders as Immigrants, any more . They can get a two year temp work permit, but even those are limited to a few thousand a year. And they have to leave when their time is up, or we arrest them and deport them, with a ten year exclusion order.

A final word....The country that contributes the MOST illegals to Canada ? The USA.

Jim b.

Toronto.
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