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Old 05-02-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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Not all the time, but sometimes...

No matter how much research I do, no matter how perfectly the trade lines up...

Every now and then I get kicked in the teeth.

2008 stole 16% of my accounts.

...and I have a weird feeling I'm not the only one.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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just buy diversified funds . you would have never lost a dime to date unless it was through your own bad investor behavior , not markets.

panic and running , trying to time things or mismatching the time frames the money is needed to investments are the usual issue
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Old 05-02-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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Everyone in the market got kicked in the teeth in 2008. That's just part of the reality of being an investor. The ones who got screwed though are the ones who panicked, sold and were afraid to get back in. Those who didn't and just kept going were just fine.

I don't trade individual stocks, I invest in mutual and index funds. The good news with those is you don't have to time anything. You just throw your $$$ in, keep adding as you can, and let er rip, no matter what the market does. You literally *have to* ignore what the market is doing and think long term.

Unless you are trying to be a trader/swing/day, and that's a whole other beast fraught with other factors.
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Old 05-02-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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No matter how much research I do, no matter how perfectly the trade lines up...
Don'y confuse trading with investing.
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Old 05-02-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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If all you lost in 2008 was 16%, consider yourself unscathed. Seriously? 16% in 2008? Far too many lost 50% and more and some have never recovered.

For that reason, I have hard time taking this and similar comments seriously. I'm just an ordinary person who's invested in mutual funds for probably nigh onto 30 years and have been far from a loser.

Individual stock picking requires a whole 'nother skill set - and unless you really like all the work (and luck) involved with that, why do it? Yes, you might make a killing on a pick here and there - plenty of people do - but, if by this time you haven't found the formula, it's time to change your approach.

Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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Old 05-02-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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Mutual fund is good for long term pssive investing

Stock picking is good for those with good technical analysis skills and those with good judgement on ideas and future trends
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Old 05-02-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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If all you lost in 2008 was 16%, consider yourself unscathed. Seriously? 16% in 2008? Far too many lost 50% and more and some have never recovered.

For that reason, I have hard time taking this and similar comments seriously. I'm just an ordinary person who's invested in mutual funds for probably nigh onto 30 years and have been far from a loser.

Individual stock picking requires a whole 'nother skill set - and unless you really like all the work (and luck) involved with that, why do it? Yes, you might make a killing on a pick here and there - plenty of people do - but, if by this time you haven't found the formula, it's time to change your approach.

Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Maybe it was a sneaky attempt to brag
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Old 05-02-2018, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Maybe it was a sneaky attempt to brag
You nailed it. This isn't a serious thread.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:06 PM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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Maybe it was a sneaky attempt to brag
More likely a typo? That 2018 stole 16%
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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More likely a typo? That 2018 stole 16%

0 and 1 aren’t close enough to be a typo in any high probability range
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