Is it better to leave out your college degree if you are applying for jobs that require no college degree? (employee, secretary)
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The only problem I have with this is that they might think that I was absolutely unemployed for 4 years of my life. Or are minimum wage jobs something you can get no matter how feeble your employment history is?
I applied for temp holiday jobs last fall. I listed my bachelor's degree and got called back for interviews at 5 places (out of the dozens I applied to). There were typically 3 rounds of interviews for a minimum wage, part-time, temporary retail position. I got rejected by 2 places, accepted to 2, and had to turn one down because I had already accepted somewhere else.
It's a crap shoot either way, because everybody is different.
Some may see a person with a college degree as them getting more bang for their buck, others may think you will leave them once you find something better and pass you up.
Is it better to leave out your college degree if you are applying for jobs that require no college degree?
Jobs that don't require a college degree don't require a resume.
As for the standard application.. refuse to fill them out.
Provide your own basic data sheet that hit's all the high points and tell them
that "if hired, I'll be happy to fill out any paperwork you have"...
Anyone with the actual authority to hire will get it.
As to what *else* you did during those four years... that might be a very tough
hole to fill if you didn't have any jobs. Assuming you did the same series of low level BS
stuff that everyone else did... describe them "after high school I ______ and ______
and ______ for the X and Y and Z companies while taking classes at State until 2009.
Since then I've ___________".
I beg to differ. The retail store that just did recruiting out here wanted people to have multiple copies of resumes and dress professionally. For cashier jobs, and pushing carriages. I can understand dressing nice, that's a given. But expecting teenagers or young people who are out of high school with no work experience, it is going overboard. Then again, the line for the recruitment was all the way down the street so they must have figured, lots of laid off adults we can scour for.
Right now is the time where we the people have to start revolting against employers. They have the ball in their court and they are the last ones down the trail who will have to fix the unemployment rate. Instead, they have decided to beef up the hiring process, and deny millions of people from all walks of life a shot at a job. Even menial ones. Their goal is to create a new normal, all the while at the cost of bringing down society.
You can issue? The College of higher education in America, Uli it University? The diploma of the bachelor's degree is a higher education diploma? I understand that the College is the same as the University in America?In Russia, The higher the University, the College technical (secondary not the school education) the Diploma of the bachelor's degree is considered the lowest level of higher education, and receive it after 2-3 years of training in a higher educational institution in Russia starting in prestige of higher education is on the 4-Училище(This is not a school, in the English language there is no such name which is the name of this institution,) 3 - Academy, 2-Institute, 1 - University
A College(Secondary special educational institutions) is a secondary education but higher than Теhnikum(Secondary special educational institutions)
According to the census of 2010 in Russia every 4 has a higher education, or the other school or College. How are things going in America?
Last edited by GreyKarast; 08-08-2012 at 12:56 AM..
I beg to differ. The retail store that just did recruiting out here wanted people to have multiple copies of resumes and dress professionally. For cashier jobs, and pushing carriages. I can understand dressing nice, that's a given. But expecting teenagers or young people who are out of high school with no work experience, it is going overboard. Then again, the line for the recruitment was all the way down the street so they must have figured, lots of laid off adults we can scour for.
Right now is the time where we the people have to start revolting against employers. They have the ball in their court and they are the last ones down the trail who will have to fix the unemployment rate. Instead, they have decided to beef up the hiring process, and deny millions of people from all walks of life a shot at a job. Even menial ones. Their goal is to create a new normal, all the while at the cost of bringing down society.
agreed, although people do not answer it specifically, it seems as if you need a college-degree for just a minimum-wage, part-time job in retail, fast-food, customer-service, flipping burgers, bagging groceries, gathering shopping-carts, stocking merchandise
...you need a college-degree for just a minimum-wage, part-time job in retail, fast-food, customer-service, flipping burgers, bagging groceries, gathering shopping-carts, stocking merchandise
You are willing to accept an absurdity.
Stop doing that.
I applied for temp holiday jobs last fall. I listed my bachelor's degree and got called back for interviews at 5 places (out of the dozens I applied to). There were typically 3 rounds of interviews for a minimum wage, part-time, temporary retail position. I got rejected by 2 places, accepted to 2, and had to turn one down because I had already accepted somewhere else.
I would put it on the application.
Those were temp jobs. The employer knows you are leaving.
When hiring for a full-time, permanent position that has no education requirement, the employer will believe that the educated potential employee will quit the minute something else is offered, which is most likely true.
No. Don't leave it off. Employers will not eliminate over qualified candidates on that basis. I've actually consulted with a few hiring managers and some were so clueless about what different qualifications were that they wrote requirements that allowed a secretary to qualify for financial advising if she worked at the right firm, but would decline people that passed the CFA exam series, CPA certification, and had MBAs.
In short. Some hiring managers are very intelligent and competent human beings. Some are not. Virtually all are greedy. Keep the degree on. Don't be afraid to make up some crap to go with it. Their background checking is rarely sufficient, because that would require spending money.
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