After years of debate, Mass. Senate passes bill to allow driver’s licenses for undocumented people (insurance, house)

[BostonBornMassMade]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/05/...mented-people/

"After years of debate, the Massachusetts Senate on Thursday passed a bill to allow people without legal immigration status to get driver’s licenses.

The vote, 32-8, was enough to override a possible veto from Governor Charlie Baker, and came after the House passed a similar bill with a similar veto-proof margin earlier this year.

Because the Senate’s version was slightly different, the driver license bills will have to be reconciled before final votes to send them to the desk of the Republican governor, who has repeatedly expressed opposition to such a measure.

Though a recent poll found residents to be split on the idea, the bill’s passage was received with chants and yelling from supporters in the chamber’s public galleries, and assurances from lawmakers that after many years of debate, they’ve crafted legislation that addresses some of Baker’s concerns"

[mdovell]

Well a few things.

So indexing, numbering and taking photographs of illegals is as bad thing? It's all about tracking them.

Second the number of insurers are very limited. You cannot insure an illegal activity.

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by mdovell

Well a few things.

So indexing, numbering and taking photographs of illegals is as bad thing? It's all about tracking them.

Second the number of insurers are very limited. You cannot insure an illegal activity.

If the number of insurers are limited, what happens if a legal, insured citizen gets into an accident with an illegal who is licensed but uninsured? Who foots that bill and what consequences are there? What rights would an illegal have if the fault was the legal, insured citizen's? Vice versa, would the illegal get automatically deported if it was their fault since they had no insurance? Then of course the legal, insured citizen is left to foot the bill with their insurance and no recourse. Guess we can all expect our auto insurance premiums to sky rocket.

[bostongymjunkie]

I guess this is another thread that will be rehashed here again like it's sister thread a few months ago. If someone has a valid operator's license they can legally drive and can purchase insurance from companies who will serve them hence the illegality issue, insofar as the motor vehicle goes, would be off the table. What we have now are unlawfully present aliens, many of whom drive without a license and without insurance. In this case if they get a license they are able to be insured through some companies.

If there was an accident the insurance company would determine fault the same way they do now. Nobody gets deported for driving without a license or without insurance.

I always carry uninsured motorist on my policy and you're crazy if you don't.

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

If someone has a valid operator's license they can legally drive and can purchase insurance from companies who will serve them hence the illegality issue, insofar as the motor vehicle goes, would be off the table. What we have now are unlawfully present aliens, many of whom drive without a license and without insurance. In this case if they get a license they are able to be insured through some companies.

If there was an accident the insurance company would determine fault the same way they do now. Nobody gets deported for driving without a license or without insurance.

They may legally get a license, however I'm sure they'll be many that choose and/or cannot afford to obtain insurance. Should be automatic deportation if they get in an accident as an illegal but do not have insurance when they were given the privilege of obtaining a driver's license.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by newenglandgal123

They may legally get a license, however I'm sure they'll be many that choose and/or cannot afford to obtain insurance. Should be automatic deportation if they get in an accident as an illegal but do not have insurance when they were given the privilege of obtaining a driver's license.

Should be deportation for a lot things. The Immigration Courts make those decisions and the Executive Branch (President) makes decisions on which cases get prosecuted. Given their actions thus far, I really don't think uninsured aliens are on their agenda.

[LeavingMA]

Just make sure they are able to vote 12 times or more for whomever they want...or whomever they need to.

[MtPleasantDream]

Sometimes I feel the US immigration system is designed to benefit those who do not follow the rules.

I know quite some people (mainly from India and China) who obtained a PhD from a US university but needed to wait 10 years to get a green card. Their career and personal life are negatively affected to a large degree.
However, I also see people who simply overstayed their visa or entered without a visa, then got a green card very fast via fake marriage or fake asylum.

My theory is, the US needs all kinds of people to do all kinds of jobs. Those who dare become illegal and make false documents possess something the country needs.

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

I always carry uninsured motorist on my policy and you're crazy if you don't.

Agreed, but it still sucks paying the deductible with no recourse for compensation. It's happened to me twice.


And to be clear I'd be equally as pissed about it if Citizen Joe Blow rear-ended me without insurance as well.

[WestieWhitie]

How long before the "if they are allowed to drive they should be allowed to vote" collective howl coming from the left corner of the stage?