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Old 03-24-2011, 11:23 PM
 
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Interesting stat from an article about Central American drug violence:

That is exactly what frightens the people and leaders of small countries like Costa Rica and Honduras. While Mexico continues to struggle with heinous violence, its murder rate is still relatively low, at 12 per 100,000 people. In Honduras, the already high murder rate has climbed rapidly and is much higher than Mexico’s — at 66.8 per 100,000 people, it is the worst in Central America.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/wo...s/24drugs.html
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:45 AM
 
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And in Mexico, drug violence really wouldn't scare me off because I'm not competing with drug lords nor do I owe any money to one. They wouldn't be after me. What does scare me off a whole lot more is the other crime, the carjackings, the kidnapping for ransom - even though they aren't kidnapping Americans, it seems like they could decide it's a good thing to do.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Axixic, Jalisco, MX
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And in Mexico, drug violence really wouldn't scare me off because I'm not competing with drug lords nor do I owe any money to one. They wouldn't be after me. What does scare me off a whole lot more is the other crime, the carjackings, the kidnapping for ransom - even though they aren't kidnapping Americans, it seems like they could decide it's a good thing to do.
Go to Phoenix and you could get kidnapped. Carjackings throughout the U.S. are not as common now since it became a federal offense. Like anywhere, stay away from the criminals and they will likely stay away from you.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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Interesting stat from an article about Central American drug violence:

That is exactly what frightens the people and leaders of small countries like Costa Rica and Honduras. While Mexico continues to struggle with heinous violence, its murder rate is still relatively low, at 12 per 100,000 people. In Honduras, the already high murder rate has climbed rapidly and is much higher than Mexico’s — at 66.8 per 100,000 people, it is the worst in Central America.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/wo...s/24drugs.html
Don't forget that statistics are very underestimated in Mexico since the police departments are on the take. There was a website I found earlier, that something like 30-70% of statistics are under reported in Mexico, depending on the region. If we go by just published numbers, then Veracruz and Baja California Sur are the best states
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Go to Phoenix and you could get kidnapped.
Irrelevant – unless rate of incidence is comparable.
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Old 03-25-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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Interesting stat from an article about Central American drug violence:

That is exactly what frightens the people and leaders of small countries like Costa Rica and Honduras. While Mexico continues to struggle with heinous violence, its murder rate is still relatively low, at 12 per 100,000 people. In Honduras, the already high murder rate has climbed rapidly and is much higher than Mexico’s — at 66.8 per 100,000 people, it is the worst in Central America.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/wo...s/24drugs.html

Damn, Honduras per capita murder rate makes Detroit and Rio De Janeiro look very safe in comparison.
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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Don't forget that statistics are very underestimated in Mexico since the police departments are on the take. There was a website I found earlier, that something like 30-70% of statistics are under reported in Mexico, depending on the region. If we go by just published numbers, then Veracruz and Baja California Sur are the best states
Murder rate is one that would be hard to fudge though. I doubt someone will say the bullets in their family member's body came from their own gun as they were cleaning it. In any case I am sure the crime stats are no different in Honduras or Guatemala, no one trusts the police there either.
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Being the cheapskate traveler I am, don't want to run into any of my own people (Americans) while traveling, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala and Tijuana have served me very well over the years, so easy on the pocketbook.

I just love it! Traveling with no reservations! Pull into a town, the town is yours, pick and choose your motel, sometimes, a luxury of all luxuries, you'll find you're the only tourist staying in that cheap motel that night and the only tourist in town. All yours! Makes me feel like a King!

Never have I ever felt in danger down there!
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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... don't want to run into any of my own people (Americans) while traveling...
You sound like me. I love non-tourist motels, second-class buses, and meeting shop owners, residents, and even 'colorful' locals around town. These are places where you learn the heart of the land.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:52 AM
 
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And in Mexico, drug violence really wouldn't scare me off because I'm not competing with drug lords nor do I owe any money to one. They wouldn't be after me. What does scare me off a whole lot more is the other crime, the carjackings, the kidnapping for ransom - even though they aren't kidnapping Americans, it seems like they could decide it's a good thing to do.
That is where you are wrong. They are doing those things to Americans. They just never get a chance to do it at the right moment.
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