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Originally Posted by DaniellaG

Spring break wasn’t 2 weeks ago so the results were seeing are not from Spring break

Was Spring Break the only time people traveled to Florida in 2020 and 2021? For what it's worth, Spring break was different for different places.

Also a lot of people that live in different parts of FL go to spring break. People in Jacksonville go to Miami. So FL should be seeing in an increase too they are not

My point is that people come to Florida on vacation. It's not just Floridians who vacation within the state. However, not a lot of people come to Michigan on vacation, especially in the winter.

I agree MS has had a lot of deaths but there cases are now low. Also no restrictions. So why are there cases low now?

Because they don't test. This is the last time I'm going to say this. MS is one of the lowest-testing and highest-death states in the country. You want to look at them as an example? Be my guest. I'm done wasting my time on Mississippi.

I have to believe Cleveland is similar to Detroit and Flint. I don’t know for a fact.

Cleveland is similar to Detroit. Flint is below them both. But we are no longer discussing poverty. I've conceded that point.

Of course seniors are not the only ones at risk but they made up 80 percent of deaths. It’s hard for me to understand how you can’t see the wrong doing in the nursing home procedures. I have a feeling if it was Republican governor who did it you would feel different

Once it is conclusively proven, I will see it and acknowledge it. It hasn't been, so I am not going to listen to you and people like you, who make things political when they don't need to be, as a voice of reason and authority, because, frankly, you have none.

On the subject of 80% of deaths being seniors, that's not true in all cases. In fact, in Michigan and Florida the number is higher, around 83%. In Mississippi, on the other hand, it's 77%. These differences matter.

In overall cases yes better then those 3 for now. I don’t know TX deaths but FL deaths are higher. If our numbers keep going up like the past 5 weeks we will be higher cases then them.

I don't even know what you're responding to anymore, but sure, I'll play along. So what should we do to make sure we don't keep going like the past five weeks?

It’s just delayed. These states faced the surge early when they opened and now we have the surge. Hopefully if people get vaccinated we won’t have the same extreme amount of cases but right now is not looking good

That's the point I can't stress enough: if the spike is delayed until we have vaccination critical mass, we may have many cases (driven now more by teenagers, some of whom are too young to be vaccinated, but who are getting tested increasingly often), but they are going to be milder and we are going to lose far fewer people than if we had a spike earlier in the year when Whitmer hit "pause". I would have thought this was obvious.

Also though I’m glad Whitmer is not shutting things down it again shows how her decisions don’t make sense. 6300 cases open 500 or less this summer kept things closed

There's a very simple answer to this, but you continue to ignore it, so I'm going to say it louder: WE DID NOT HAVE THE VACCINE IN THE SUMMER. WE DO NOW.

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Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns

No, you said Florida's death rate was four times Michigan's, when in reality, Florida's rate is actually lower than Michigan's.

If you're going to try to argue with me, at least know what point it is you're trying to refute. I never said Florida's death rate was lower than Michigan's overall. In fact, I said the exact opposite. Numerous times. What you're referring to is Florida's trailing 7-day death rate, which is, yes, higher than Michigan's. Right now it stands at 74 vs 25 for Michigan. So, three, not four times.

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I see that now. Sorry.