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I was thinking of all four services, and others not directly counted (more than you would think). The last time I looked at it was in the Cold War era, and that, not WW2 was when the number of flag officers peaked. (In times of war, you need fighting men, not Generals and Admirals)
I should have figured the number would be smaller, but I had no idea how much smaller it had gotten.
I was thinking of all four services, and others not directly counted (more than you would think). The last time I looked at it was in the Cold War era, and that, not WW2 was when the number of flag officers peaked. (In times of war, you need fighting men, not Generals and Admirals)
I should have figured the number would be smaller, but I had no idea how much smaller it had gotten.
The cap for all four services is less than 1000 (I think something like 969), and the actual number is substantially below that.
skipped a little thing called a 3 star admiral. (7th fleet)
Does the TR even fall under the 7th fleet?
The TF may have at the time, I have no idea, but the TR is not assigned to the 7th fleet I think.
In any case, that is a non issue.
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Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk
The primary factor was that it reached the public.
We don't know how many other messages the captain had sent out prior to that within prescribed channels, or to whom all those messages went.
This is still something that is absent (but I have not read the linked report), who leaked the email?
Out of all of this scenario, that is the big issue in my opinion, and one that seems has not been addressed publicly at least. But even if behind the scenes, someone would have gotten slammed with that and dismissed, and that would be public, unless they actually glossed over it and allowed the perosn who leaked it to escape punishment.
skipped a little thing called a 3 star admiral. (7th fleet)
Can you write it off as simply skipping Sawyer (C7F), or is there more to the story? From the report it looks like neither Crozier nor Baker had any faith that anyone at the Seventh Fleet was doing much to help them other than looking for a place to park in Okinawa while the virus multiplied on board. All told, almost 1300 crewmembers contracted the virus.
Looks like Crozier is the designated whipping boy with the recommendation that he never have a command again, either on a ship or on land. Sounds like they'll let him drive a desk at the Pentagon. Baker appears to be getting a more detailed investigation of his own, I wonder how much of that we'll ever see. Nothing indicates the urgency Crozier, and possibly Baker, was driving was appreciated by Sawyer though; who's investigating him?
The ship is back at sea, albeit with a close to a third of the crew still in Guam and they only needed to bury one sailor. It smells like Crozier's email was just what it took to get the bureaucratic machine moving fast enough to keep the death toll under control. Who knows what would have been the outcome even two or three days later.
Look how long it took the Navy to admit they were wrong about the captain of the USS Indianapolis
Fifty years, long after most, maybe all, of the participating parties, and a lot of their family members, were dead. At least Nimitz had the sense to restore him to duty and he still made rank and retired. I will always be baffled on why the Navy did what they did to him.
I wish every military officer--at least in peace time--put the interests of his crew ahead of everything else.
Crozier is a fine man who attempted to do what was right. Under these extraordinary circumstances, he had to do what he did.
His firing sends the message that officers who are willing to sacrifice their career to protect their men are not needed in today's Navy. What a shame.
I wish every military officer--at least in peace time--put the interests of his crew ahead of everything else.
Crozier is a fine man who attempted to do what was right. Under these extraordinary circumstances, he had to do what he did.
His firing sends the message that officers who are willing to sacrifice their career to protect their men are not needed in today's Navy. What a shame.
It wasn't just his men. He was attempting to prevent his ship from becoming disabled. But the Navy let it become disabled for political expediency, and then fired him to protect their old boys network. But that is the nature of the game. Covering each other's six is considered the most important mission.
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