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Old 12-29-2009, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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Happiness is indeed in the heart of the beholder. Some are happy with nothing while others are happy with something.
And some are not happy even with something.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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For retirees, finding the simple things amazing in Mississippi is great, I agree. but Mississippi, although tries to copy, is not Florida. It has a huge population of people 25 and younger who want to know what a paved road looks like, who want to enjoy something finer than the same old nothing that's going on in Mississippi to this very day. there's no industry to speak of other than the service industry(McDonald's etc..). the Casinos aren't enough to stimulate the economy on it's on. it's depravity at it's best. but I digress. Happiness is indeed in the heart of the beholder. Some are happy with nothing while others are happy with something.
Paved roads? Exaggerating a bit? I don't see Mississippi turning paved roads into gravel to balance the budget like Michigan. Take a look at the states ranked by road conditons.

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If you don't like it in Mississippi, there are 49 other states, but saying Mississippians have nothing to be happy about is inaccurate.

I don't rely on money or possessions to make me happy, but i'm far from deprived. I have a new car, gaming systems, pc, etc. Those things are available here you know. My wife and I have a very healthy income, here im Mississippi.

When I want to see the finer things I just go see some live theatre, or visit one of the world-class exhibits such as "The Glory of Baroque Dresden", "The Majesty of Spain", or "The Splendors of Versailles", all three of which have taken place in Mississippi. Maybe i'll go to the USAIBC International Ballet Competition, held exclusively in the United States here in Mississippi.

No industry to speak of? How about Nissan? Toyota opening soon near Tupelo? Ship building on the coast? NASA rocket testing? furniture? petroleum products? I could go on, but take a look at the statistics on Mississippi industry to illistrate my point. We arent nearly as bad off as you think.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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And some are not happy even with something.
And some are not happy but hide behind a happy face.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:27 PM
 
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Paved roads? Exaggerating a bit?
take out of context much?

A Quick look at the roads in Mississippi and you'll see that there's a severe need there. I can't count the number of tires/cracked wheels I've lost on the roads in Mississippi. Ever been to Vicksburg? Natchez? Meridian? Jackson? and those are the bigger cities with horrible roads...

And I'm sorry but not into comparing Mississippi's woes with the rest of the country's because it doesn't validate what we do here.

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If you don't like it in Mississippi, there are 49 other states, but saying Mississippians have nothing to be happy about is inaccurate.
I've heard this before and you know what, it doesn't hold an ounce of water. one reason change happens is because people like me make a stink of existing conditions in hopes the "higher ups" will do their job and stop stealing. if I and others like me left, what would Mississippi do besides fall back into the dark ages?

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I don't rely on money or possessions to make me happy, but i'm far from deprived. I have a new car, gaming systems, pc, etc. Those things are available here you know. My wife and I have a very healthy income, here im Mississippi.

When I want to see the finer things I just go see some live theatre, or visit one of the world-class exhibits such as "The Glory of Baroque Dresden", "The Majesty of Spain", or "The Splendors of Versailles", all three of which have taken place in Mississippi. Maybe i'll go to the USAIBC International Ballet Competition, held exclusively in the United States here in Mississippi.
hmmm...you don't need money to make you happy but all the things you listed require money to attend and enjoy. contradict yourself much?


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No industry to speak of? How about Nissan? Toyota opening soon near Tupelo? Ship building on the coast? NASA rocket testing? furniture? petroleum products? I could go on, but take a look at the statistics on Mississippi industry to illistrate my point. We arent nearly as bad off as you think.

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Awesome. there is light at the end of the tunnel. just needs more of it....and not 20 years later..the increments of growth in Mississippi is slower than snails racing. but congratulations Mississippi...finally headed
in the right direction after all these years. another 30 years and I can see Mississippi on par with 1995 Atlanta or 2001 Nashville but at least we'll be "happy".

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Old 12-29-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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hmmm...you don't need money to make you happy but all the things you listed require money to attend and enjoy. contradict yourself much?
I didn't contradict myself at all. I have children, so the gaming systems are for them, but I play them occasionally. If I happen to attend an event, maybe it's because it is something that I want to do, but it isn't required to make me happy. I drive a car until I feel it is no longer reliable, in this case 6 years, then I get a new one. The car I bought was a $14,700 car, not a $40,000 vehicle. What do you drive? It's all to illistrate a point. If what makes you happy are material possessions, those things are available here, we aren't deprived.

I guess you think I should live in a mud hut with dirt floors, drive a horse and carriage, and never leave my village, because as soon as you hear i've attended something that requires money then i'm contradicting myself. If I never attended another event I would still be happy, because i'm an adaptive person. I will find something to make me happy.

What makes you happy? Obviously it can't be found in "deprived" Mississippi.

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Old 12-29-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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take out of context much?

A Quick look at the roads in Mississippi and you'll see that there's a severe need there. I can't count the number of tires/cracked wheels I've lost on the roads in Mississippi. Ever been to Vicksburg? Natchez? Meridian? Jackson? and those are the bigger cities with horrible roads...

And I'm sorry but not into comparing Mississippi's woes with the rest of the country's because it doesn't validate what we do here.



I've heard this before and you know what, it doesn't hold an ounce of water. one reason change happens is because people like me make a stink of existing conditions in hopes the "higher ups" will do their job and stop stealing. if I and others like me left, what would Mississippi do besides fall back into the dark ages?



hmmm...you don't need money to make you happy but all the things you listed require money to attend and enjoy. contradict yourself much?






Awesome. there is light at the end of the tunnel. just needs more of it....and not 20 years later..the increments of growth in Mississippi is slower than snails racing. but congratulations Mississippi...finally headed
in the right direction after all these years. another 30 years and I can see Mississippi on par with 1995 Atlanta or 2001 Nashville but at least we'll be "happy".
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

Mississippi is behind on many accounts, but the gap is often exaggerated. Yes, we have shoes and paved roads. Yes, we have big businesses and small businesses. Yes, we have cows and farms as well - but to say that Mississippi, in general, is 40 years behind is a big stretch.

I've traveled to over half of the states in the US, and I have been to Mexico, Italy and some of the Carribean as well. There are certainly other places that I would like to live, but I am happy with my choice to live in Mississippi. Of course, there are things that I would like to see changed - who doesn't want some kind of change from time to time. Times change and people change, just not all at the same time or the same rate at times.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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A Quick look at the roads in Mississippi and you'll see that there's a severe need there. I can't count the number of tires/cracked wheels I've lost on the roads in Mississippi. Ever been to Vicksburg? Natchez? Meridian? Jackson? and those are the bigger cities with horrible roads...

And I'm sorry but not into comparing Mississippi's woes with the rest of the country's because it doesn't validate what we do here.

I've heard this before and you know what, it doesn't hold an ounce of water. one reason change happens is because people like me make a stink of existing conditions in hopes the "higher ups" will do their job and stop stealing. if I and others like me left, what would Mississippi do besides fall back into the dark ages?
Think maybe there are bad roads in every state? Think maybe that's why Mississippi wasn't ranked last in the number of very good roads? In fact, it was pretty high on the list. It's easy to say the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, but is it really?

It seems you are contradicting yourself when you say you aren't into comparing Mississippi's woes with those of other states. Why are we having this conversation if not for you comparing Mississippi to other states?

You think you and a few others are the only ones who push for change in Mississippi to make it a better place? Aren't you important... please don't leave us here to fall back into the dark ages. Other states have corruption as well, if you didn't realize it.
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
no ..what you're getting is my zeal for Mississippi to be shed in an honest light so people who come here won't leave with a bad taste in their mouths. Far too long people say "visit Mississippi it's great", but when they get here they feel lied to and leave to tell the rest of the world "not to visit Mississippi". this is why people nationwide bash on Mississippi. it's like a pig stewing in it's on poo and not know it.


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Mississippi is behind on many accounts, but the gap is often exaggerated. Yes, we have shoes and paved roads. Yes, we have big businesses and small businesses. Yes, we have cows and farms as well - but to say that Mississippi, in general, is 40 years behind is a big stretch.
it's the truth. beautiful as it is, it's behind the 8ball of life. it's in a standstill. it's not that people don't want things, they do, it's just the leadership of the state is lacking vision. and has for many years.

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I've traveled to over half of the states in the US, and I have been to Mexico, Italy and some of the Carribean as well. There are certainly other places that I would like to live, but I am happy with my choice to live in Mississippi. Of course, there are things that I would like to see changed - who doesn't want some kind of change from time to time. Times change and people change, just not all at the same time or the same rate at times.
What are some things you would like to see changed?
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Jackson, MS
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What are some things you would like to see changed?
I would like to see the state give more incentives and tax breaks to those who live and work here in the state rather than those from out-of-state or out-of-country that come here to take advantage of cheap labor. Sure, it gives people jobs, but it's a temporary fix. The creation of more low-paying jobs does nothing to move our state towards the future. Our wages are historically lower than almost every other state, yet our governor continues to try to attract foreign businesses here to take advantage of it.

I'm a public high school graduate and college graduate from in-state schools, and I received a great education. The sad part is that just 1200 miles northeast of here, I would have a 25% higher salary - not because I'm wanted or needed there, but simply because of location. Mississippi needs to work on not only creating higher paying jobs, but increasing the pay of those of us already working. Have you seen our teacher's salaries? Or how about our police officers? Would you risk your life for $25-30k/year?
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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Think maybe there are bad roads in every state? Think maybe that's why Mississippi wasn't ranked last in the number of very good roads? In fact, it was pretty high on the list. It's easy to say the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, but is it really?
let's not compare other states. focus on Mississippi.

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It seems you are contradicting yourself when you say you aren't into comparing Mississippi's woes with those of other states. Why are we having this conversation if not for you comparing Mississippi to other states?
I haven't compared Mississippi to any other state because I know Mississippi doesn't stack up. But what does need to happen in the long run is other states start comparing themselves to Mississippi.

Let me ask you as I will ask others...what are you Happy about as a Mississippian?


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You think you and a few others are the only ones who push for change in Mississippi to make it a better place? Aren't you important...
It's funny you say that because I really do feel as though I'm on a short list.


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please don't leave us here to fall back into the dark ages.
I promise I won't
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