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Old 04-25-2024, 12:23 AM
 
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The thievery never ends. Per the article, this is not going to go over well with the people of NJ.

Essentially, the law forces towns to bypass the 2% property tax increase cap to meet budget shortfalls. This allows Murphy to create budget shortfalls by pulling state aid from towns for his own decisive redistribution.

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There are 137 school districts facing reductions in state aid. Many are facing the prospect of layoffs because the governor cut their funds.
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Districts with great numbers of loyal Democrats get vast sums of aid. Newark gets a staggering $1.21 billion in aid.

Elizabeth, in solidly Democratic Union County, will get $583 million in aid for about 28,000 students, a hike of about $50 million.

Then there’s Toms River, the county seat of heavily Republican Ocean County. It has approximately 15,000 students but gets a mere $28.1 million in aid, which will be cut by $2.8 million. (Just close some schools, says the Governor)
https://www.nj.com/opinion/2024/04/d...f-a-cliff.html

Also, Anchor rebates are gone and don't have your hearts on getting 65 and property tax relief when negotiations happen (per the article).

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Old 04-25-2024, 04:55 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Not cheap managing a herd of illegal aliens.

NJ taxpayers won't mind, next gov will be a democrat and dems will keep control of the legislature to ensure political inbreeding.

We traditionally enjoy the economic anomalies the lack of political diversity and democrat inbreeding delivers.

Won't mention the sanctuary status and 911 to add security concerns on top of the taxpayer rip offs. Recall the gas tax was to be raised when revenues did not meet the predicted annual amount. That follows the same strategy here. "hey, my hands are tied, the law says I have to raise taxes".

NJ politicians refrain when passing distasteful legislation, leave no trace, no fingerprints and never, ever link your name to the bill.
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Old 04-25-2024, 07:26 AM
 
Location: My house
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but the schools in New Jersey are top-notch, so many people don’t mind paying over 12k annually in property taxes because all they fund is the schools which are top-notch. Did I mention that the school in New Jersey are top notch? every single one of them! Once the kids graduate, just sell the hot potato to the next young couple at a huge mark up.
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Old 04-28-2024, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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People really need to be made aware of this. I know my NJ town of Lake Hopatcong in Jefferson Township lost 65% of funding.Jefferson is a heavy republican township, does that come into play I've no idea
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Old 04-28-2024, 05:54 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You're forgetting that most high-tax states like NJ send more money to Washington than they get back in federal spending. Most low-tax red states make a profit from the federal government’s system of taxing and spending.

Some conservatives would feed a starving child in front of them, but wouldn’t vote for free school lunches. So it might not be a lack of generosity or empathy, but an inability to empathize with people out of sight. That doesn’t work well in large communities.

In a small town, everyone knows each other. If you now Bob, and he gets sick and can’t work, then everyone will pitch in. That doesn’t scale very well. So people with that mindset aren’t going to like city life much.

When you grow up in a big city, you grow up understanding these things. Which is why a lot of people move to red areas for the low taxes — and quickly find out that services they take for granted, don’t exist. They often move back.
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Old 04-28-2024, 07:13 PM
 
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Some conservatives would feed a starving child in front of them, but wouldn’t vote for free school lunches. So it might not be a lack of generosity or empathy, but an inability to empathize with people out of sight. That doesn’t work well in large communities.
If you "empathize with people out of sight" you will be taken advantage of by people who for whatever reason are yawning bottomless pits of need.
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Old Yesterday, 11:04 AM
 
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The thievery never ends. Per the article, this is not going to go over well with the people of NJ.

Essentially, the law forces towns to bypass the 2% property tax increase cap to meet budget shortfalls. This allows Murphy to create budget shortfalls by pulling state aid from towns for his own decisive redistribution.



https://www.nj.com/opinion/2024/04/d...f-a-cliff.html

Also, Anchor rebates are gone and don't have your hearts on getting 65 and property tax relief when negotiations happen (per the article).
https://www.nj.com/news/2024/02/youl...ed-budget.html

The proposed budget still includes another year of ANCHOR.
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Old Yesterday, 01:55 PM
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People really need to be made aware of this. I know my NJ town of Lake Hopatcong in Jefferson Township lost 65% of funding.Jefferson is a heavy republican township, does that come into play I've no idea
Jefferson School District in Morris County is getting $4,849,657 NJ state aid for the 2024-2025 school year. This is a decrease of 5% (not 65%) over last year. The amount of the decrease is $255,990.

Hopatcong District in Sussex County is getting $2,881,593 NJ state aid for the 2024-2025 school year. This is an increase of 6.1% over last year. The amount of the increase is $165,428.

422 districts will see an increase
137 will see a decrease
15 will remain the same

The much debated funding formula is from 2008, well before Murphy's tenure as governor.

You can check any NJ district in the published chart in the link:
https://www.nj.com/education/2024/02...t-numbers.html
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Old Today, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Jefferson School District in Morris County is getting $4,849,657 NJ state aid for the 2024-2025 school year. This is a decrease of 5% (not 65%) over last year. The amount of the decrease is $255,990.

Hopatcong District in Sussex County is getting $2,881,593 NJ state aid for the 2024-2025 school year. This is an increase of 6.1% over last year. The amount of the increase is $165,428.

422 districts will see an increase
137 will see a decrease
15 will remain the same

The much debated funding formula is from 2008, well before Murphy's tenure as governor.

You can check any NJ district in the published chart in the link:
https://www.nj.com/education/2024/02...t-numbers.html
The 65% loss is from 2008 when this was implemented
In Morris County, Jefferson saw the largest percent loss in funding with a 65% drop in state aid since the 2007-08 school year.
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