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Old 03-30-2024, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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So far, Oregon still has private property rights. No one has to support dozens of indigent senior citizens out of their own pocket, beyond what their tax dollar is paying for.

The people receiving welfare and who live in government paid housing apparently won't be happy until the government seizes all real estate and hands it out to low income and the unemployed.
Maybe the government can just try to maintain the current housing supply or do you want to see more homeless camps on the streets? Take a pick. Your choice.
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Old 03-30-2024, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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Maybe the government can just try to maintain the current housing supply or do you want to see more homeless camps on the streets? Take a pick. Your choice.


The quote above explains how Cuba became such a paradise on earth.

Last edited by mgforshort; 03-30-2024 at 01:30 PM..
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Old 03-30-2024, 12:59 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Maybe the government can just try to maintain the current housing supply or do you want to see more homeless camps on the streets? Take a pick. Your choice.
Since you seem to think that private parties should provide housing for the homeless, put your money where your mouth is and buy a large multi-bedroom house and fill it with homeless senior citizens who can not pay rent.

Keep it nice and warm inside and hire enough qualified people so you have 3-4 people on duty 24 hours a day 365 days a year. Provide good balanced meals and perhaps have a licensed nutritionist on the payroll to to make sure the food is adequate. You seem to think it can be done for the pittance those folks were paying, and if that is so, you can do it with nothing out of your pocket since the rent is covering all expenses plus leaving a profit. All it would cost you would be just a little time to get it organized.

You get it done yourself instead of sitting there and pointing out what the rest of us should be providing for you and your ilk.
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Old 03-30-2024, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Don't the residents have leases? A lease is a contract.
Couldn't the residents take the owners to court
for breach of contract?
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:07 PM
 
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Pretty sure the owner of a private establishment can legally close it, change it or do whatever the heck he wants to do with it. State has little say in this matter.

Try again.
Pretty sure they can't legally close an assisted living facility with no notice.
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:09 PM
 
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Don't the residents have leases? A lease is a contract.
Couldn't the residents take the owners to court
for breach of contract?
I don't know if they had a lease or if it was month-to-month. Either way, they have grounds for a civil suit. Maybe they'll file one, but that doesn't solve their immediate dilemma.
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Don't the residents have leases? A lease is a contract.
Couldn't the residents take the owners to court
for breach of contract?
If it's anything like my lease, it's a one sided document, including 17 pages of small text that basically says the management can do whatever they want and the tenant must accept it.
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Old 03-30-2024, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Since you seem to think that private parties should provide housing for the homeless, put your money where your mouth is and buy a large multi-bedroom house and fill it with homeless senior citizens who can not pay rent.
If it was up to me, I wouldn't allow private parties to provide housing to anyone. I would make it illegal, or at least severely restrict it. Then real estate prices would plummet and people would be able to afford to buy their own homes.

But unfortunately we have an entitled landlord class in this country who think they should be able to live high on the hog, without having to work for it, except to go collect up the rent checks one day a month.
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Old 03-30-2024, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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If it was up to me, I wouldn't allow private parties to provide housing to anyone. I would make it illegal, or at least severely restrict it. Then real estate prices would plummet and people would be able to afford to buy their own homes.

But unfortunately we have an entitled landlord class in this country who think they should be able to live high on the hog, without having to work for it, except to go collect up the rent checks one day a month.
You can walk through life with this completely distorted perception of how things work, and all that will happen is you will be angry about things that you clearly don't understand. There are ample things in life to be angry about, but you have got some serious magical thinking going on if you think real estate prices would plummet if rentals didn't exist.

What wouldn't plummet is homelessness. If you think banks are going to lend money to people with crap credit, I don't even know what to say.
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Old 03-30-2024, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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If it was up to me, I wouldn't allow private parties to provide housing to anyone. I would make it illegal, or at least severely restrict it. Then real estate prices would plummet and people would be able to afford to buy their own homes.

But unfortunately we have an entitled landlord class in this country who think they should be able to live high on the hog, without having to work for it, except to go collect up the rent checks one day a month.
Oh lordy- you are without a doubt the most entertaining voice on this forum at the moment
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