Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona > Phoenix area
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-24-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
3,365 posts, read 5,233,336 times
Reputation: 4205

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Finger Laker View Post
AZ Manger - you are factually incorrect. I'm not going to rehash every post already on here, but what your state is not true

Also, please explain how having vastly less funding than a decade ago when all operating costs have increased over the same time frame equates too a large increase in school funding?

Out students do not perform at the national average - again, it's not even close.

Overrides cannot be relied upon for basic school funding. This goes against the state constitution and accelerates under performance in poor communities. The state lost a lawsuit with a settlement north of $1B due to this item.

Look at Tucson, they are putting every dime of the new state money to salaries - this equates to a flat $3k raise for teachers and classified staff and a 2%-4% raise for others. So definitely not funding to support a 10% raise there. They are facing capital expenditure issues as well, but who needs safe buses anyway?

In TUSD, teacher raises will come at expense of school safety, repairs | Local news | tucson.com
Doesn't Tuscon have one of the highest per pupil administrative costs in the state? Without going back through the auditor general reports, they also have some of the highest per rider transportation costs and highest cost per square footage plant expenses (building maintenance etc., not landscaping).

A few years back they introduced a pay raise program that was supposed to train and move administrative personnel up the ranks but they just gave them raises and they didn't move up. That initiative failed so bad it was scrapped but the staff has maintained the pay raises they received.

Tuscon was given the funds same as everyone else but the school board has decided to spread it out to all of it's staff even those overpaid administrative positions. Ducey had to get involved because their original plan was to stiff the teachers and spread out the $11.3m set aside for only teacher raises to all staff. After the call from Ducey their teachers got their 10% as intended. Any complaints with how Tuscon decided to spend the rest of the pot is entirely on the school board who for some reason insists on giving it's overpaid administrative staff raises.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-24-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
3,187 posts, read 5,739,868 times
Reputation: 3658
Tucson.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
3,365 posts, read 5,233,336 times
Reputation: 4205
Quote:
Originally Posted by pbenjamin View Post
Tucson.
Auto correct does what it wants to do.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona > Phoenix area
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top