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I was in a similar position to Elliot Rodger, but I never embraced violence for that reason. Instead I moved and gave into my "dark thoughts", i.e., I actually started talking to girls. After several called me names and one slapped me, I ended up with one that became my first almost girlfriend. We hung out and one day our clothes just kind of fell off...I was 29. It was my first time.
I think it needs to be said that yes, before you feminists get in an uproar, it does suck that women get looked at and hit on all the time. But NONE of you can deny that sometimes you like the attention. Now, try going your whole life NEVER being looked at, no matter how you dress up or what you do or say. That feeling of being unwanted is just as dehumanizing as being cat-called.
Women say things like "I hate the way men look at me!" Well, a rebuttal is that I hate the way women don't look at me.
He probably had mental issues other than this and he finally snapped. Personally if I knew this guy I would have taken him out and given him the secret ingredient to talking to females: CANNABIS! It loosens you up without numbing the senses to the point that you act a fool. Or I would have just got him a high class escort. No, it isn't enough to have sex that is paid for, but it could help.
But ultimately yeah, it sucks to be made to feel unwanted and not sexy. Men don't usually talk about this stuff and few women can relate, but it is there. And by "few women" I mean it. Every woman on Earth is sexy to some men, and some men prefer heavy or older women. I have YET to hear of a woman who prefers shorter or skinny guys. But a little charm can fix that, which is what the cannabis is for as it helps bring out the natural charm in a man. Still, I have to convince women, and it does suck knowing none will ever see me and think "he's hot."
Why can't more women just accept this? We men accept that there are things women have to deal with that we don't, like worrying about getting home safe at night or sitting next to creeps on a bus. Why can't women admit that the absolute feeling of being unwanted sexually by anyone is a man thing that few, if any, women ever go through?
Elliot Rodger's actions were inexcusable, and I say this as a diagnosed ASPD "sufferer". But his rage and feelings were absolutely justified.
And every day several young men just like him kill themselves and no one makes a fuss. Isn't their suffering worth anything? Why do people only care when he takes others with him? If he had just shot himself in class "Jeremy" style, would there be as much a fuss?
And they call me the "sick bastard"...
Nice post and I delighted you got over your phobias but I wouldn't offer someone like Elliot Rodgers some pot, thinking it was going to change all that. He was schizophrenic so pot wouldn't have the effects on him as it did you.. or the miracle for Elliot R that you are talking about? . It could have possibly made him more violent.
Why would you through that it there, thinking that would be a solution for a schizophrenic? Oh yeah, no problem.
I made it only to about page 80, at the suggestion of some coworkers who thought that possibly by reading it, someone could gain an insight into his character to prevent another massacre like this from happening. His writing seemed to be similar to a journal that many people could have written...no particular trauma or reason for the kind of rage that he must have carried to commit such a horrific crime. While he definitely suffered failures and losses, they don't appear to significantly stand out. You've prompted me to try to read his manifesto to the end.
I watched that video by the way. Very true. I would thinks SIDS could include emotional trauma from separation of the mother as well. ( And I have known that to happen-- just one case anyway.. but you can't prove it) A little tiny infant that was very small was like that, that passed.. so that would mean his stress genes were through the roof all the time, whether his mother was in the room or not. He clung on like it was his survival, 24/7. I didn't know him, but that is what I came to know.
He had weak coping skills.
And his support team should get fired or charged criminally. Sorry, but any mental health professional who lets a patient write **** like he did and not investigate is not worth his or her professional salt..
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Originally Posted by stressedCollegeGirl89
Even without the Asperger's, the guy was still seriously flawed in is mindset about a specific group women and how he felt he ultimately deserved to have hot blonde good-looking girlfriend(s) by his side and have sex with them. Wonder if someone had ever told him that the world doesn't owe him a damn thing. If so, then it must have been too late to get him thinking straight. I'm curious to know how his home life was and the relationship he had with his parents and what they had taught him thoughout his life. Also, does his younger sibling have a similar menality?
^^^^I wondered about this too.
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Originally Posted by CA4Now
Elliot Rodger's former roommate, who said he had an idea that something was seriously wrong.
His former roommate made a comment that stood out about "it takes a community to help someone
like Elliott." After reading the entire thread, he did have a community - his roommates who tried to
include him, his parents and the best mental health professionals that money can buy (since his
parents were doing well financially). Plus, he never had to worry about money.
Also, I think I read something on another thread that he was a City Data member who made several
posts.
I was in a similar position to Elliot Rodger, but I never embraced violence for that reason. Instead I moved and gave into my "dark thoughts", i.e., I actually started talking to girls. After several called me names and one slapped me, I ended up with one that became my first almost girlfriend. We hung out and one day our clothes just kind of fell off...I was 29. It was my first time.
I think it needs to be said that yes, before you feminists get in an uproar, it does suck that women get looked at and hit on all the time. But NONE of you can deny that sometimes you like the attention. Now, try going your whole life NEVER being looked at, no matter how you dress up or what you do or say. That feeling of being unwanted is just as dehumanizing as being cat-called.
Women say things like "I hate the way men look at me!" Well, a rebuttal is that I hate the way women don't look at me.
He probably had mental issues other than this and he finally snapped. Personally if I knew this guy I would have taken him out and given him the secret ingredient to talking to females: CANNABIS! It loosens you up without numbing the senses to the point that you act a fool. Or I would have just got him a high class escort. No, it isn't enough to have sex that is paid for, but it could help.
But ultimately yeah, it sucks to be made to feel unwanted and not sexy. Men don't usually talk about this stuff and few women can relate, but it is there. And by "few women" I mean it. Every woman on Earth is sexy to some men, and some men prefer heavy or older women. I have YET to hear of a woman who prefers shorter or skinny guys. But a little charm can fix that, which is what the cannabis is for as it helps bring out the natural charm in a man. Still, I have to convince women, and it does suck knowing none will ever see me and think "he's hot."
Why can't more women just accept this? We men accept that there are things women have to deal with that we don't, like worrying about getting home safe at night or sitting next to creeps on a bus. Why can't women admit that the absolute feeling of being unwanted sexually by anyone is a man thing that few, if any, women ever go through?
Elliot Rodger's actions were inexcusable, and I say this as a diagnosed ASPD "sufferer". But his rage and feelings were absolutely justified.
And every day several young men just like him kill themselves and no one makes a fuss. Isn't their suffering worth anything? Why do people only care when he takes others with him? If he had just shot himself in class "Jeremy" style, would there be as much a fuss?
And they call me the "sick bastard"...
And after all the women on here who have pointed out that you and others are 100% wrong about there not being women in your shoes, what exactly is your intent in repeating the falsehood? Is it to help you keep your self-denial from the fact that you are guilty of doing to other human beings exactly what you are whining has been done to you? What about all those girls out there who have never had a date that you passed over because you didn't think they were good enough for you?
I was in a similar position to Elliot Rodger, but I never embraced violence for that reason. Instead I moved and gave into my "dark thoughts", i.e., I actually started talking to girls. After several called me names and one slapped me, I ended up with one that became my first almost girlfriend. We hung out and one day our clothes just kind of fell off...I was 29. It was my first time.
I think it needs to be said that yes, before you feminists get in an uproar, it does suck that women get looked at and hit on all the time. But NONE of you can deny that sometimes you like the attention. Now, try going your whole life NEVER being looked at, no matter how you dress up or what you do or say. That feeling of being unwanted is just as dehumanizing as being cat-called.
Women say things like "I hate the way men look at me!" Well, a rebuttal is that I hate the way women don't look at me.
He probably had mental issues other than this and he finally snapped. Personally if I knew this guy I would have taken him out and given him the secret ingredient to talking to females: CANNABIS! It loosens you up without numbing the senses to the point that you act a fool. Or I would have just got him a high class escort. No, it isn't enough to have sex that is paid for, but it could help.
But ultimately yeah, it sucks to be made to feel unwanted and not sexy. Men don't usually talk about this stuff and few women can relate, but it is there. And by "few women" I mean it. Every woman on Earth is sexy to some men, and some men prefer heavy or older women. I have YET to hear of a woman who prefers shorter or skinny guys. But a little charm can fix that, which is what the cannabis is for as it helps bring out the natural charm in a man. Still, I have to convince women, and it does suck knowing none will ever see me and think "he's hot."
Why can't more women just accept this? We men accept that there are things women have to deal with that we don't, like worrying about getting home safe at night or sitting next to creeps on a bus. Why can't women admit that the absolute feeling of being unwanted sexually by anyone is a man thing that few, if any, women ever go through?
Elliot Rodger's actions were inexcusable, and I say this as a diagnosed ASPD "sufferer". But his rage and feelings were absolutely justified.
And every day several young men just like him kill themselves and no one makes a fuss. Isn't their suffering worth anything? Why do people only care when he takes others with him? If he had just shot himself in class "Jeremy" style, would there be as much a fuss?
And they call me the "sick bastard"...
You think it's encouraging to women to have strangers catcalling them? In any way, shape, or form? It's not. No woman knows if this is the man who is going to chase her down and rape her. I was reading a discussion the other day where some man was saying that men have come up to his wife and tried to get inside her car - twice. (I was horrified enough to imagine someone doing it once.) Plus, I'll tell you what being catcalled solely by skeezers while simultaneously ignored by decent employed men does to a woman - it makes her feel tainted, like she's got some kind of stamp on her forehead reading "Future Gun Moll; Decent Men Need Not Apply". "Ignored by all functioning members of the opposite sex in society" is the same as your "ignored by everybody in the world". You start to think, clearly you must deserve a drug-dealing welfare recipient; these are the only men who are paying you attention, after all! I can find you sites with chapter and verse from women, who developed the likes of permanent posture slumps from hunching over to hide their breasts, and diagnosed PTSD from walking down the street in the likes of NYC and DC.
he did have a community - his roommates who tried to include him.
By then he must have been deeply disturbed. A very sad article about the two roommates whom he later killed, and their friend, who happened to be visiting the apartment that night and whom Rodger also killed. Rodger must have been a nightmare to live with...his anger was off the charts. http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/l...ry.html#page=1
And after all the women on here who have pointed out that you and others are 100% wrong about there not being women in your shoes, what exactly is your intent in repeating the falsehood? Is it to help you keep your self-denial from the fact that you are guilty of doing to other human beings exactly what you are whining has been done to you? What about all those girls out there who have never had a date that you passed over because you didn't think they were good enough for you?
Again, men have much, MUCH more varied taste then women do. There are men who prefer larger women, and men who prefer skinny women. Some men prefer shorter women, some prefer taller women. Some men like older women, other men like younger women.
Women on the other hand seem to be more homogenized in their taste: tall, good looking, muscular enough etc. Don't believe me? I invite you or anyone else to conduct a little experiment:
Look at porn for women, i.e., romance novels. They made for women, by women and show what is generally women's fantasies. And what do you see on the covers?
Men with chiseled abs, big arms, tall etc. Show me ONE romance novel/woman's fantasy in which the object of her desire is shorter, a little chubby or scrawny, and not an "alpha male."
Now, look at porn for men. Actual porn, that is. And what do you see? I can't post images or links (for obvious reasons) but here's some Wikipedia articles to illustrate what we all know is true:
This proves that men have taste across the board. We ALL KNOW THIS IS TRUE. Some men like women who aren't traditionally attractive as men's fantasies prove.
Show me ONE example of a woman's fantasies involving a less traditionally attractive man. JUST ONE. No one has been able to do that ever and they just attack the question instead of answering it.
In short, ever woman is sexy to someone...many men go through life knowing they aren't "hot" to a single woman on Earth.
I think it needs to be said that yes, before you feminists get in an uproar, it does suck that women get looked at and hit on all the time.
You wouldn't have to live in that sucky reality if you stopped believing the myth that women get looked at and hit on all the time. Most women don't. Most women don't get noticed or approached by anyone for years. Decades, even. Stop fixating on the top 20-30% of women, and peace of mind can be yours! It's that simple.
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You think it's encouraging to women to have strangers catcalling them? In any way, shape, or form? It's not. No woman knows if this is the man who is going to chase her down and rape her. I was reading a discussion the other day where some man was saying that men have come up to his wife and tried to get inside her car - twice. (I was horrified enough to imagine someone doing it once.) Plus, I'll tell you what being catcalled solely by skeezers while simultaneously ignored by decent employed men does to a woman - it makes her feel tainted, like she's got some kind of stamp on her forehead reading "Future Gun Moll; Decent Men Need Not Apply". "Ignored by all functioning members of the opposite sex in society" is the same as your "ignored by everybody in the world". You start to think, clearly you must deserve a drug-dealing welfare recipient; these are the only men who are paying you attention, after all! I can find you sites with chapter and verse from women, who developed the likes of permanent posture slumps from hunching over to hide their breasts, and diagnosed PTSD from walking down the street in the likes of NYC and DC.
Wow, never before have I seen someone so blatantly ignore what I wrote. Congratulations.
I said it is dehumanizing to be cat-called, and I said it point blank. I don't understand why people don't read what I write before replying. Me thinks someone has a deep seated hatred of men that is clouding their judgement.
Yes, it is dehumanizing for a woman to be cat-called walking down the street, I agree. And that is not what I'm talking about and 99% of people would understand that. What I'm talking about is bar/party situations. This may be hard for you to understand but indeed many women dress up nice and go to bars, clubs and parties with the intent of getting the attention of the opposite sex and even *gasp!* getting someone's number. Any woman can go to a club or bar and get the attention of a man if she wants it.
Men on the other hand, don't have that option. So many men, no matter what they dress like or how they put themselves together, can't get females to look at them as anything other than a piece of litter on the street. And that absolute rejection can be just as bad as being cat called (again, I said "cat calling=bad" Hope you understand that this time)
Why is it that men have to accept that women can be raped, assaulted etc but women have such a hard time getting what we all know is true: ANY WOMAN CAN HAVE SEX WHEN EVER SHE WANTS TO. MEN DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION UNLESS THEY ARE GAY/BI.
And for the record it wasn't until age 29 that I heard a female say I'm attractive. Just throwing it out there, but maybe going your entire young adult life being treated as an asexual non-person just might cause someone to feel resentment, rejection etc.
Women on the other hand seem to be more homogenized in their taste: tall, good looking, muscular enough etc. Don't believe me? I invite you or anyone else to conduct a little experiment:
Look at porn for women, i.e., romance novels. They made for women, by women and show what is generally women's fantasies. And what do you see on the covers?
Porn isn't proof of anything. You're torturing yourself with this stuff. Look at real life; women go for skinny guys, fat guys, average guys, short guys, plain guys, all kinds of guys. Often what a lot of these guys have in common is a sense of humor, or a way of making women feel like they're the center of attention. Master the art of making women feel like you find them fascinating, or learn to make them laugh, and women can be yours. Forget about all the other cr@p. It's just marketing.
You're mindf**king yourself. Happiness is in your mind (or...not, your choice). Don't fall for propaganda and brainwashing. You're smarter than that, aren't you? ....aren't you?
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getting someone's number. Any woman can go to a club or bar and get the attention of a man if she wants it. 
