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Old 09-19-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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There is a shortage of housing, thoughts on this California bill and how it will effect housing. Some say land prices will increase as they can built multi family homes now, other say large homes will increase in vale as McMansions could in theory be converted into 3-4 plexes. What would that do the the neighborhood, thoughts?

Your 4,000 SF tract home next to another just like it that converted into a 4 plex, will this increase or decrease the value of those properties?

Can these new laws override HOA rules, or could HOA's keep the neighborhood Single Family?

To be it does not solve the underlying problem, the permit process to get an approval to built. Some area of California is can take years, in some cases even a decade or more to get approval to build.



Single-family-only zoning laws make it illegal to build anything but a single-family home on a particular lot of land. Now (with small exceptions like for fire-prone areas) it is also legal to build duplexes.

That change was part of a suite of housing production bills Newsom signed into law on Thursday, continuing a years-long trend of California pushing forward as one of the few states attempting to tackle the housing supply crisis.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/202...-family-zoning
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Old 09-19-2021, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Sarasota/ Bradenton - University Pkwy area
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This is not just a California thing, the Democrats in Congress are planning something similar that they have buried in one of the infrastructure bills now sitting in Congress.

Democrats plan to federalize local zoning laws to potentially displace single-family homes with high-rise, low-income apartments.

It's called the “HOMES Act,” which attempts put the federal government in charge of local zoning laws to change local demographics.

According to the measure within the transportation package, any local government that does not comply with the federal zoning guidelines, meaning “ordinances that ban apartment buildings from certain residential areas or set a minimum lot size for a single family home,” the Department of House and Urban Development (HUD) will cut off funding to that city – funding any city needs to maintain their current low-income housing.

Additional consequences for cities keeping their local zoning laws in place would be to punish states by prohibiting them from “receiving taxpayer funded transportation grants of any kind if they refuse to allow high-rise apartments throughout their high density zoning in their suburbs. States receive federal funding for things such as roads, schools, etc.
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Old 09-20-2021, 09:35 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Based on what's been happening for years in Seattle, I wouldn't worry about a McMansion being converted to a duplex. What will affect property values is the older neighborhoods, in places like the SF Bay Area, where a 1940s million dollar "fixer" will be torn down, and replaced with a 2 story townhouse 4-plex. There may be places like Lafayette, CA where a 1930s home on a 1/2 acre lot like where I grew up is replaced by a 40 unit apartment building. A 4 unit condo sold to 4 owners will not affect the value like an apartment building. It's whatever the developer considers the best investment, and whether they want an immediate return, or or willing to wait for the rents to cover the cost.
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:09 AM
 
Location: MID ATLANTIC
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I don't know how these new laws can up-end HOA By-Laws. Take our townhouse community. We are in a condensed area and have 2 parking spaces per home with a dozen over-flow spaces for residents. (We have 20 additional visitor spots that residents may not park in). We have some homes that have 3, 4, or even 5 cars; owners are renting their basements having converted their basements into apartments. The only "control" from multifamily housing are the parking restrictions.
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Old 04-05-2022, 01:29 PM
 
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Lot-split law hasn’t made a ripple in Bay Area’s single-family neighborhoods
The bill allows homeowners to build up to four units on a single-family lot, the state’s latest effort to build more housing



https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/04...neighborhoods/
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Old 04-06-2022, 09:21 AM
 
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This is not just a California thing, the Democrats in Congress are planning something similar that they have buried in one of the infrastructure bills now sitting in Congress.

Democrats plan to federalize local zoning laws to potentially displace single-family homes with high-rise, low-income apartments.

It's called the “HOMES Act,” which attempts put the federal government in charge of local zoning laws to change local demographics.

According to the measure within the transportation package, any local government that does not comply with the federal zoning guidelines, meaning “ordinances that ban apartment buildings from certain residential areas or set a minimum lot size for a single family home,” the Department of House and Urban Development (HUD) will cut off funding to that city – funding any city needs to maintain their current low-income housing.

Additional consequences for cities keeping their local zoning laws in place would be to punish states by prohibiting them from “receiving taxpayer funded transportation grants of any kind if they refuse to allow high-rise apartments throughout their high density zoning in their suburbs. States receive federal funding for things such as roads, schools, etc.
I tend not to believe everything that I read on the internet. Your post is no exception. Can you provide a link and cite the specific provision in the proposed legislation?
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Old 04-06-2022, 10:29 AM
 
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I tend not to believe everything that I read on the internet. Your post is no exception. Can you provide a link and cite the specific provision in the proposed legislation?
The Homes Act would enact Federal regulations on communities for disbursement of federal funds to improve energy efficiency. Basically it says if you accept federal funds to give to private citizens to improve the building's energy efficiency, it must follow certain guidelines and can't willy-nilly be used or given away. This is the same as with hundreds of other federal program,. How or why some think it's some type of zoning thingy is just another indictment on the dangers of blindly following a message without verifying the facts.
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