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Old 03-30-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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Not really. We're now in a nation where truth is relative. That is not sane. If your only definition of sanity is rejection of Evangelical Christianity, in what it's become today, then your definition is woefully short.
What do you mean by "truth is relative" as opposed to being universal?

First of all, please define what you mean by truth. It certainly isn't something that only the religious have ownership of, if that is what you are implying.

 
Old 03-30-2019, 11:31 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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What do you mean by "truth is relative" as opposed to being universal?

First of all, please define what you mean by truth. It certainly isn't something that only the religious have ownership of, if that is what you are implying.
I thought he was referring to our current Administration and "alternative facts".
 
Old 03-30-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Not really. We're now in a nation where truth is relative. That is not sane. If your only definition of sanity is rejection of Evangelical Christianity, in what it's become today, then your definition is woefully short.
It is. Well done. Norm's definition went much further than just getting shot of the evangelical Christianity that of course is the only thing that matters to you.
 
Old 03-30-2019, 12:54 PM
 
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I think the chart shows Catholicism is in fact declining.
Sorry, my eyes must be giving out and strained. I thought I saw Catholic on the light blue line. Now I see that it was actually on the dark blue line and light blue was Mainline.

What is "Mainline" religion? Oh, older Protestant religions than (tel)Evangelical? It seems to have crashed until Trump got elected.

I wonder what kept everything so constrained from the 70s to the early 90s.

The Plutocrats were favoring a Cold War perhaps?
 
Old 03-30-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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Just look at the trend line of "nones" (many,but not all, who are atheists) since 2010. It is a straight up shot, and coming from all areas, but especially the evangelicals are losing members.

Does this mean sanity is now valued?

Perhaps. Although there is no question that there are many atheists and agnostics in the "none" group, there are also still some who have a believe in some god or gods. However, it also seems clear that it is the first step towards rational thinking once people remove themselves from an organized religion. I've been an atheist for decades, but it took me a long time to even self-identify myself as such. I suspect I am not an anomaly.

At any rate, I see this as the real "good news".
The USA's 5% of the world population is an outlier.
Theism and Religious Belief is gaining globally.
 
Old 03-30-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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The USA's 5% of the world population is an outlier.
Theism and Religious Belief is gaining globally.
This thread is about the United States. It's right there in the thread title:

Decline of religious in USA: "Nones" now more than evangelicals


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Old 03-30-2019, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The USA's 5% of the world population is an outlier.
Theism and Religious Belief is gaining globally.
Notice how you state that: "Religious Belief", not "christianity".
 
Old 03-30-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Not really. We're now in a nation where truth is relative. That is not sane. If your only definition of sanity is rejection of Evangelical Christianity, in what it's become today, then your definition is woefully short.
And what is truth? Truth to you is Christianity. Truth to somebody else is science, Buddhism, atheism, etc.
 
Old 03-30-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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The Internet was the final nail in the coffin of Christianity. The net opened the truth about the shady underhanded dealings of the church and its corrupt leadership to the entire world. People now can research such topics as "Jesus never existed" and "Ten Reasons The Gospels Are Works of Fiction" and get the complete lowdown on Christianity's nefarious creation.

SC3PTICS: Literary Traditions: Ten Reasons the Gospels are Works of Fiction
That is the truth.
 
Old 03-30-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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The USA's 5% of the world population is an outlier.
Theism and Religious Belief is gaining globally.
This study deals with the USA. Why bring up an assertion that is totally irrelevant to the topic?
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