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No different than what happens to a Catholic (or Hindu or Mormon or Buddhist) who doesn't agree with everything about their religion.
Sure hope this reply doesn't get anyone going on the ridiculous argument that atheism is a religion. Hopefully everyone's critical thinking skills are at least better than that!
I do t know about the others, no Hindu ever gets kicked out. There is no club. Heresy is unknown. All paths when lovingly followed lead to Krishna. An elementary textbook on Religious Studies would be an useful aid when one dives into religions. Even for an atheist.
I do t know about the others, no Hindu ever gets kicked out. There is no club. Heresy is unknown. All paths when lovingly followed lead to Krishna. An elementary textbook on Religious Studies would be an useful aid when one dives into religions. Even for an atheist.
"Club" is a term that mensaguy chose to use, and I decided to leave it be though I wouldn't call atheism a club. Obviously atheism is not a club, and I'm not aware of anyone getting kicked out of anything as a result of not agreeing entirely with that list. I'm sure mensaguy was not being entirely serious with the way he posed his question. I am an atheist and I've never been in an atheist club. It's something like the term cult, that some people like to use as well. Often inappropriately, but the facts about this are rather simple as well.
Atheists tend to adhere to beliefs fairly well described by the list I posted earlier. Religious people tend to adhere to beliefs described in their holy books. The differences along these lines are significant and profound. All obviously dependent or conditional upon whatever we deem most likely to represent that facts and truths of these matters.
"Club" is a term that mensaguy chose to use, and I decided to leave it be though I wouldn't call atheism a club. Obviously atheism is not a club, and I'm not aware of anyone getting kicked out of anything as a result of not agreeing entirely with that list. I'm sure mensaguy was not being entirely serious with the way he posed his question. I am an atheist and I've never been in an atheist club. It's something like the term cult, that some people like to use as well. Often inappropriately, but the facts about this are rather simple as well.
Atheists tend to adhere to beliefs fairly well described by the list I posted earlier. Religious people tend to adhere to beliefs described in their holy books. The differences along these lines are significant and profound. All obviously dependent or conditional upon whatever we deem most likely to represent that facts and truths of these matters.
(a) the fact is that there is no such thing as a "typical atheist"
[are you able to recognize how these statements are problematic: "a typical black person" "a typical homosexual" "a typical German" "a typical Jew" . if not then that is an even bigger problem]
(b) any list of "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" is a false premise from the get-go because
(c) atheism is one thing only, and a very simple thing at that: lack of belief in gods.
(d) if someone is going to claim that "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" then that is setting up atheists as a group or club or sect.
(e) it is not logical and not rational to deny that atheists are a group or club or sect, while at the same time promoting publishing distributing a tract which states "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs."
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(a) the fact is that there is no such thing as a "typical atheist"
[are you able to recognize how these statements are problematic: "a typical black person" "a typical homosexual" "a typical German" "a typical Jew" . if not then that is an even bigger problem]
(b) any list of "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" is a false premise from the get-go because
(c) atheism is one thing only, and a very simple thing at that: lack of belief in gods.
(d) if someone is going to claim that "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" then that is setting up atheists as a group or club or sect.
(e) it is not logical and not rational to deny that atheists are a group or club or sect, while at the same time promoting publishing distributing a tract which states "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs."
(a) the fact is that there is no such thing as a "typical atheist"
[are you able to recognize how these statements are problematic: "a typical black person" "a typical homosexual" "a typical German" "a typical Jew" . if not then that is an even bigger problem]
Are you able to recognize the difference between 'are' and 'can be'? A clue, what is wrong with the phrase 'a typical German likes sausages'?
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(b) any list of "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" is a false premise from the get-go because
(c) atheism is one thing only, and a very simple thing at that: lack of belief in gods.
Except c does not preclude b, so you have another non sequitur.
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(d) if someone is going to claim that "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" then that is setting up atheists as a group or club or sect.
No, it is only setting them up only as a group. That is what a group is, a plural of things. But carry on building your straw man.
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(e) it is not logical and not rational to deny that atheists are a group or club or sect, while at the same time promoting publishing distributing a tract which states "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs."
(a) the fact is that there is no such thing as a "typical atheist"
[are you able to recognize how these statements are problematic: "a typical black person" "a typical homosexual" "a typical German" "a typical Jew" . if not then that is an even bigger problem]
(b) any list of "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" is a false premise from the get-go because
(c) atheism is one thing only, and a very simple thing at that: lack of belief in gods.
(d) if someone is going to claim that "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs" then that is setting up atheists as a group or club or sect.
(e) it is not logical and not rational to deny that atheists are a group or club or sect, while at the same time promoting publishing distributing a tract which states "atheists tend to adhere to these beliefs."
This is a typical comment of yours...
Or might you be wanting to argue that typical is not a word now? Here's the typical definition found in most dictionaries for your general reference before you comment about this again.
Typical: having the distinctive qualities of a particular type of person or thing.
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