06-08-2008, 04:45 PM
Location: Beaumont, Texas
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Redlands and Grand Terrace are both good options less than 10 mins. away. Hospitality Lane (in San Bernardino) is only 3mins. away and this is where you'll probably be spending most of your time drinking and dining. LL is a quiet town but it's nice. It might be nice place to go home and relax after a fun night out. Good luck.
06-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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I used to work at loma linda medical center.. And I'm not a SDA (heck, I'm pagan) - everyone was very nice, no one preached at me, but I found it amusing that they have a vegetarian cafeteria and almost everything was deep fried. I'm kind of a health nut and their veggie cafeteria had some pretty yucky stuff (deep fried cottage cheese?!). I love Clarks (health food store) and the Loma Linda Market, however - both are near LLUMC. Redlands is VERY close to Loma Linda. I can't comment on the night life, but I can say that I had no problems. And you get mail on Sunday there!
06-08-2008, 08:30 PM
Location: In bucolic TN
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Reviewing the posts so far, there may be a need for clarification. I was an LLU student from 1999 to June 2008. I lived in off-campus housing for that same time period, currently on internship in Fort Wayne.
Unless you are talking about the Stater Bros on Barton or the LL Market on Anderson, there is no other supermarket in town. The one Vons in the neighborhood is in Redlands. You may have gotten a snarky look b/c at that store, one of the few things for free are snarky looks. That's also part of the Redlands mystique which is a whole other topic.
The staff in the hospital is made up of interns. These are medical/doctoral level white coats who are full of arrogance, like any medical/doctoral level white coat. I saw it and heard it and it still comes across as intolerant. There is no justification for the way you were spoken to, and you should have taken it up with senior staff, who although potentially Adventist, would have placed a greater priority on patient care and minimized the religious talk. You can call it invitiating cultural tolerance. While LLU is Adventist, tolerance and being PC are being emphasized, so what you had happen to you won't continue. These kids will be interning at places other than LLU, so their dose of reality should come sooner than later. It won't do them well to play those games at non-Adventist or non-religious hospitals.
While living there I never got religious tracts. We also tried Hallowe'en several years, and would get about 5-6 kids. To these refugees we would deliver about 5 pound of candy, or perhaps one pound per child. Loma Linda is the mecca of Adventists, but even then, it is a strange place to be as Adventists. I spoke to some 'moderate' Adventists while there, who said it was unlike a/t they experienced before, and they just tolerated it for the education. We did get some cool kids picking up food for the homeless on Hallowe'en however, and we typically got them a small bag of groceries, to pick up. They took candy for themselves too.
The LL bars/nightlife would be on Hospitality. They just opened a stretch from Tippecanoe to Waterman that has all sorts of hang-outs. If you want real clubbing, go to LA. Most students in LLU are so busy, they don't have time to hang out. Those that do are more sociable within their inner circle and will associate with one another at each others houses. There's nothing else to say than a lot of busy work, a lot of late nights, and making peer/professional connections.
We were able to be sociable and have fun living in town. We had several parties while living there, setting up tents across our lawn or in our driveways on several Saturdays (Sabbaths). We were well tolerated, and the Adventists we invited would either come at sunset or would come during mid-day, stay for a short while, then leave.
I think the environment brings out the craziness, I didn't have particular problems with the Adventists I met, and some were really pretty conservative, but there wasn't a whole lot of pushiness given to us when we were new in town. We were not Adventists ourselves but we knew a minister and other persons who were just as down to earth as any one else. And while wine isn't recommended, some Adventists will joke that Jesus got to their bottles after they were purchased, and that he still performs the Cana miracle. Another one is that they are looking to calm a stomach ache. You'll do fine. Good luck.
06-09-2008, 06:39 AM
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I used to work at loma linda medical center.. And I'm not a SDA (heck, I'm pagan) - everyone was very nice, no one preached at me, but I found it amusing that they have a vegetarian cafeteria and almost everything was deep fried. I'm kind of a health nut and their veggie cafeteria had some pretty yucky stuff (deep fried cottage cheese?!). I love Clarks (health food store) and the Loma Linda Market, however - both are near LLUMC. Redlands is VERY close to Loma Linda. I can't comment on the night life, but I can say that I had no problems. And you get mail on Sunday there!
Thats interesting because the cafeteria at the hospital my daughter was born in (also an SDA hospital) served meat.
My sister taught dental hygeine to the dental students at LLU many years back and she lived in Grand Terrace. It was a nice community back then.
06-09-2008, 08:11 AM
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I may be mistaken about the name of the grocery store, but it was in Loma Linda. And the nurse who spoke to me at the hospital was the Head Nurse in recovery. She was not an intern or student. She was the only person at the hospital to speak that way to us.
Just to clarify, I have the highest regards for the people who work at Loma Linda Medical Center. In 2006, my husband was treated at the Proton Beam Center for prostate cancer. We were at the center 5 days a week for 2 months. The doctors, nurses and staff were extremely friendly, helpful and organized. They have created a world of support and hope for many. We keep returning to this hospital as my husband now refuses to go anywhere else. So that should say something for this medical center.
06-10-2008, 07:54 PM
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What would it matter how religious a person might be? Im not athiest but Im not a regular church go-er either, so where does that put me? And Ive lived in mormon towns, heck, no one knew the difference as long as you dont bring it up.
06-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Location: Norcross GA
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Loma Linda has no night life but you are close enough to other areas that do. Californians are pretty laid back and Loma Linda is still in California.
09-13-2008, 03:24 PM
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Students at Loma Linda University are contracted to not consume any alcohol as a condition of their relationship with the University...
The medical care is exceptional as long as you do not cross religious lines...
Redlands is "Loma Linda EAST" though alcohol is served -
There are several Starbucks in Redlands.
It was a miracle to have a Carls Jr in Loma Linda but they are mandated to serve Veggie burgers...
Many, if not most, SDAs do not know their doctrine fully but accept their religion perhaps for cultural, social, and/or familial obligations.
The postal service do not deliver on Saturdays...
If you want leadership positions in an organization owned and operated by SDAs, you'd better be a SDA...no such thing as EEO...
09-14-2008, 02:26 PM
Location: Southern California
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I would not worry about any kind of harassment or retaliation for being of a different Faith (including Faithless). If you plan to have a lot of loud parties and generally disrupt the neighborhood, I would expect neighbors to complaint to the PD--but that's really a function of the neighborhoods being populated with a lot of tired, overworked people, not religion.
If you want to participate in the nightlife, you will have to go out of Loma Linda (as other posters have commented). Hospitality Lane is the closest thing to nightlife. Redlands has a few interesting little places, but nothing I'd call a nightlife. Again--I doubt your neighbors will really care much if you go out and drink (or drink in the privacy of your home)...
The biggest problem you'll face is that the entire area is kind of boring... lots of dual-income families with long commutes and little time for anything but work and kids. Most of the activities locally are "family oriented" and include all of the pros and cons inherent in that generalization.
The local theater and arts is almost non-existant. The Redlands Symphany is the only interesting thing. Few, if any nightclubs in a 30 minute radius... Even the coffee shops tend to close early.
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We are moving from out of state to Loma Linda (or surrounding areas if we have to). It looks like this town has its own ways based on religion. Is there room for a young couple like ourselves, who is still interested in drinking, partying, dancing and participating in fun activities. Is somebody going to burn our house and vehicles if we don't go to their church? If yes, what is the closest location that we should choose in order to feel safe.
09-20-2008, 06:25 PM
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We are moving from out of state to Loma Linda (or surrounding areas if we have to). It looks like this town has its own ways based on religion. Is there room for a young couple like ourselves, who is still interested in drinking, partying, dancing and participating in fun activities. Is somebody going to burn our house and vehicles if we don't go to their church? If yes, what is the closest location that we should choose in order to feel safe.
Loma Linda is prodominately Seventh Day Adventist, Medical Students or Medical Professionals. Most everything is centered around Seventh Day Adventist belief. They do not sell alcohol in the Stator Bros. Grocery store, the Post-Office is closed Sat. and open Sun. unlike most every other area. Most people that live there do not do any kind of business from sun-down Friday to sun-down Sat. not even over the phone.
But you should have no problems with anyone pushing anything on you or surely not burning your house down. There are many other nearby communities to go dancing and enjoy entertainment.
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People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)