Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Science and Technology
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-11-2022, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
2,140 posts, read 1,209,244 times
Reputation: 3016

Advertisements

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2243247.html Could it be?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-12-2022, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Capital Region, NY
2,480 posts, read 1,552,838 times
Reputation: 3565
This is a huge deal!! The US Department of Energy will be making an announcement Tuesday on the fusion energy breakthrough. I didn’t think it would happen in my lifetime. Here’s hoping they can make it practical to use in the next couple decades.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-12-2022, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
2,140 posts, read 1,209,244 times
Reputation: 3016
I was reading a bit and some muckety said maybe 5 years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2022, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
3,992 posts, read 6,795,905 times
Reputation: 2470
Holy...

Finally...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2022, 05:10 AM
 
7,241 posts, read 4,552,074 times
Reputation: 11934
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfas View Post
This is a huge deal!! The US Department of Energy will be making an announcement Tuesday on the fusion energy breakthrough. I didn’t think it would happen in my lifetime. Here’s hoping they can make it practical to use in the next couple decades.
You must be young. My entire life they have been saying this... and particularly now... is a very good time to start lying about our capabilities.

Remember we won the cold war because Regan convinced the USSR that Star Wars worked.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-14-2022, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
11,110 posts, read 9,817,167 times
Reputation: 40166
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManApplet View Post
I was reading a bit and some muckety said maybe 5 years.
It will be decades.

It takes 5+ years to build (just build) a nuclear power plant. And there have been hundreds of those built. It's a well-established entity.

Fusion? There's just been a breakthrough, at the minimal level. It has to be scaled up. all the way to industrial levels. And commercialized. That will be years if not decades in the offing. Then you have designing and constructing an entirely new type of power plant. That's a decade-plus right there. Then there's the ironing out of the inevitable kinks, and beyond that the expansion of the first plants into replacing the current system entirely.

I'd don't think fifty years is particularly pessimistic.

I'm not trying to downplay this development. It's fantastic, the potential is enormous, the implications are profound.

But five years? Twice that isn't even remotely possible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-14-2022, 04:42 PM
 
Location: My house
7,369 posts, read 3,533,397 times
Reputation: 7765
if this can get to market in the future, the retrofit industry will be the next booming job machine.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2022, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Maine
22,922 posts, read 28,279,449 times
Reputation: 31249
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unsettomati View Post
It will be decades.

It takes 5+ years to build (just build) a nuclear power plant. And there have been hundreds of those built. It's a well-established entity.

Fusion? There's just been a breakthrough, at the minimal level. It has to be scaled up. all the way to industrial levels. And commercialized. That will be years if not decades in the offing. Then you have designing and constructing an entirely new type of power plant. That's a decade-plus right there. Then there's the ironing out of the inevitable kinks, and beyond that the expansion of the first plants into replacing the current system entirely.

I'd don't think fifty years is particularly pessimistic.

I'm not trying to downplay this development. It's fantastic, the potential is enormous, the implications are profound.

But five years? Twice that isn't even remotely possible.
Correct. This is a great breakthrough, but we are still decades away (at least!) from a working fusion reactor. Assuming that does happen, it will take decades more to re-build our infrastructure.

The day may come when the entire world is running on clean, renewable fusion energy, when every home has cheap power, heating, and air conditioning, and air pollution is a thing of the past. But it is unlikely that any of us will live to see that day. Our grandchildren? Maybe.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2022, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
2,140 posts, read 1,209,244 times
Reputation: 3016
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unsettomati View Post
It will be decades.

It takes 5+ years to build (just build) a nuclear power plant. And there have been hundreds of those built. It's a well-established entity.

Fusion? There's just been a breakthrough, at the minimal level. It has to be scaled up. all the way to industrial levels. And commercialized. That will be years if not decades in the offing. Then you have designing and constructing an entirely new type of power plant. That's a decade-plus right there. Then there's the ironing out of the inevitable kinks, and beyond that the expansion of the first plants into replacing the current system entirely.

I'd don't think fifty years is particularly pessimistic.

I'm not trying to downplay this development. It's fantastic, the potential is enormous, the implications are profound.

But five years? Twice that isn't even remotely possible.
No so fast. a fusion situation is far safer than a fission plant. False equivalency. And these guys are jumping on it. https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/n...-b2246755.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2022, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Wooster, Ohio
4,143 posts, read 3,056,566 times
Reputation: 7280
Here's a review by Anton Petrov:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g_A5tEApa0&t=884s
When you include the power needed to activate the lasers used to start the reaction, the efficiency becomes 1% instead of 150%.


I was just listening to a motivational audio by Earl Nightingale. He predicted fusion power within 10 years. While I was unable to find the original date of the audio, Earl died in 1989.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Science and Technology
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top