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When things do fall apart it would be interesting to see what happens to all the nay sayers ,likely all mad at the government for not being better prepared .
Well the government has already issued warnings to prepare , and many didn't listen .
There are personal events my reserves have already paid off and I wage no time replenishing them including many fuels and different types of making energy .
If you not wiling to learn and research now , it will be toooo late when the time comes.
It sounds all nobel to be helping your neighbors when you've plenty of reserves for short term , but if ti's much longer who get's the food and who doesn't ?
Who gets the last antibiotic ?
Play this scenario ,
Your daughter didn't take you seriously and snuck out to find her boyfriend , but she gets captured by raiders trying to use her as bargaining chip; for you to give up your security, reserves, and home . What do you do ?
When people are only inconvenienced that's one thing ,
But when it's been days since they've eaten and their children are starving things get desperate and deadly.
Add just one more element ,
With all the illegals flooded into the country, most of the quite familiar with warfare , now how long do you think your going to last ?
And by the way ,many of the scenarios that people come up with actually did happen in Africa and south america as well as other countries.
I tell you this , I will not compromise the lives of those under my care for those that did not care to prepare .
When the grid does go down there will be no energy, communications , fuels or water , or sewer, as well pumps that move the sewage will stop, and the sewage will build up and over flow especially in big towns .
Most modern engines that are used as back up rely on solid state electronics so an EMP will fry them as well.
It's not just the starting/running of the engine but the controls are also vulnerable.
Hospitals will be dead and the few that have medical expertise will be taking as much advantage of that as possible.
One can only bargain using something the other person needs . gold won't go that far nor can you prove it's real.
Opportunists likely to be working over time to make deals that have no future
In the olden days people didn't travel much because one's trust for mankind is limited ,those days will return.
Most modern engines that are used as back up rely on solid state electronics so an EMP will fry them as well.
Actually, that was the butt of the joke about this topic. The "GRID" is a DISTRIBUTION network which has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to GENERATE electricity.
That's why some are making fun a people who are running around in fright over the "grid" as if it means the end of electricity. That's like saying if the water mains are shut off everyone will die of thirst because there will be no water. If the water mains are dry, there are still thousands of sources of water. So, even if the "grid" goes down, people can still produce electricity. There is this thing called solar, or wind, or hydro, or even biomass to name a few. All of them can produce electricity. Even if the "grid" is down that doesn't mean we can't still operate generating plants in a small limited fashion to provide power packing.
I believe this should have been about an EMP taking out unprotected components and not the "grid" going down so we can't start our cars. However, it was entertaining reading from those who jumped on the No Electricity bandwagon without even questioning that no grid doesn't mean no electricity. It's almost as if the mere mention of some doomsday prediction caused them to get all aroused and have an orgasm and couldn't rationally think. Now do you see why some are poking fun at this while thing?
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^^^ The sewer is an issue. One more reason we live near the TOP of the hill. As they say s#it runs downhill, so the folks at the bottom better learn to swim, or plug their drains pdq. If it ever backs up to our level we will just disconnect and run a pipe out the back slope and right back down the hill.
And why would all these dire predictions happen if the grid just went down? We'll still have electricity just localized instead of distributed. Vehicles and aircraft will still function. Televisions and radios will still turn on. Porno stores and bars will still be able to open. We'll just have to adjust to the change. A enterprising person can open an Electric Bar using local available resources to power the generation system. Of course if this isn't just the "grid" going down but an EMP (or similar) event, that's a lot different that the "Life After Grids".
If there is no electrical power none of your examples will work.
Most people will starve to death.
With all the illegals flooded into the country, most of the quite familiar with warfare , now how long do you think your going to last ?
Let me ask you this: do you always wear a helmet when you are outside on the off-chance that a part may fall off an airplane and hit you on the head? Or do you spend your whole (obviously precious!) life under ground?
I think the intent of the ops topic is what would happen if the electricity was cut off.When most people talk about the power "grid," they're referring to the transmission system for electricity.Take out that grid and you have no electricity and all the things the op outlined will come to pass ,end result most will starve.
Nearly anything that walks, creeps, crawls, swims, or flies is edible. Some critters must be cooked to nullify the poisons, some must be eaten raw or they are poisonous.
Many plants are edible (even the inner bark of pine trees is).
It is surprising what one will eat, if hungry enough!
As for electricity, I am willing to bet that the terrorists are working on plans to infiltrate enough people into the country to pack explosives around the bases of dozens if not hundreds of transmission towers and substations.
However, I have generators, as long as the gas holds out.
In the event of a massive solar EMP, I suppose I will die. It will happen sooner or later anyway, no big thing.
I think the intent of the ops topic is what would happen if the electricity was cut off.When most people talk about the power "grid," they're referring to the transmission system for electricity.Take out that grid and you have no electricity and all the things the op outlined will come to pass ,end result most will starve.
When most people talk about the "Power Grid" they are talking about the system used to connect power generation sources to power consumers. They are not talking about "electricity". Only a person ignorant of facts equate the "Grid" to "electricity".
Even if the "Grid" did go down, the ability to produce electricity and use it still remains. That is a common sense, idiot proof fact. Take for example during blackout how thousands of real people have electricity through personal generators, or how vehicles don't just stop dead in their tracks, or how police, fire, hospitals still have lights. Even battery operated devices work and they use electricity.
THINK!
If what you say was true, the entire world would stop as in the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still". But, sensible mature individuals know that was a Hollywood movie not reality. Only those delusional poor souls living in some fantasy doomsday world would think that the loss of the electric grid mean the loss of electricity.
Now, if you are talking about some form of EMP that destroyed unprotected electrical equipment, and that loss of control of electricity means the type of disruption you're talking about, that is a different issue that has nothing to do with the loss of the grid. If you want to discuss the impact of the loss of the ability to produce electricity, let's talk about that. However, the GRID is not electrical PRODUCTION no matter how many times you Bush the subject!
A Carington event produced by the sun will cause the same thing as an EMP only the whole planet will be effected.
a couple years ago our planet missed a very serious solar flat by only 2 weeks .
In the 1800s there was a Carington event that lit up every wire on the planet and fires were every where, people died.
Fortunately then there were mostly few wires for power and communications and not much in metal buildings .
But now there are cities filed with steel and wire every where your turn even through out your home .
A Carington event now, would make the previous one look like a sparkler ,compared to a world on fire.
True some cars may stand up to an EMP but many won't an those wile blocking traffic not to mention signals not functioning.
Every gas station be it natural gas propane diesel , gasoline , all fuels depend on electricity to move them , most engines that a driving generators have electronic ignitions, so they will be dead as well, not to mention the controls that make them govern their function.
If the grid goes down due to the blowing up of transformers, there are no spares, and they are usually custom made over seas, because the environmentalist don't allow them being made here.
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If it ever backs up to our level we will just disconnect and run a pipe out the back slope and right back down the hill. 
