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Old 10-08-2021, 10:07 PM
 
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If SHTF, money won't be worth crap. Bullets will be the new gold.
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Bullets will be the new gold.
In California, they already are....

It's gotten so bad, that people are trading boolets for certain calibers they can use. Some may acquire boolets just to have something/anything to trade for something they may need.

The "hoops" one has to jump thru, just to buy boolets in Calif is silly, now. There's a whole underground industry for ammo/reloading supplies and the like, now.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I keep bees.
We always have jars of the stuff.
I think it would be an extremely valuable commodity.
It’s nutritious and has lots of uses.
The local hospitals even use honey for wound treatment.
Young kids love it and a spoonful will make anything taste better.
Toss some on nuts and grains for a healthy power bar and you will have more energy when you need it.

Ok that’s my pitch and I only want one of your goats for this quart .
Good point. I used to keep bees and we have quite a few jars (non opened) around. Totally tradeable commodity. And honey never goes bad, either.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I thought I'd posted a prior response here ....not the one from today.

We keep some cash in the safe, but I believe commodities will be even more important than money if the S really HTF.

Items you can trade. Non perishables. Honey is a very good one. Rice, beans (not in a can), a certain amount of liquor and yes, AMMO. Just in case.....
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Lots of good stuff in this thread.

The most important takeaway is that there is no one right answer. Some people in here might have more stashed away than your net worth. For others, the reverse might be true.

My own methodology revolves around a normal month's expenditures (which, hopefully, is a little less than a month's income). The amount could be $800 or $8000, so let's call that a "unit."

First have one "unit" worth of food on hand.
Then one "unit" worth of cash.
Then one "unit" worth of ammo.
Then one "unit" worth of silver.
(I do not recommend gold, at all.)

If you have more money, and want to secure it against inflation, buy some farm land and lease it to a local farmer.

These are just my recommendations, YMMV.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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If SHTF, money won't be worth crap. Bullets will be the new gold.
Already got more ammo then I know what to do with. What else you got for trade?
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Old 10-09-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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With the social and political world going crazy how much cash would a family of two need to have on hand? I have been keeping $500 to $1,000, but I am thinking I may need more.

Inflation is going crazy. Better to have tradable assets. If things really hit the fan your dollars may be worthless.
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Old 10-09-2021, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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In California, they already are....

It's gotten so bad, that people are trading boolets for certain calibers they can use. Some may acquire boolets just to have something/anything to trade for something they may need.

The "hoops" one has to jump thru, just to buy boolets in Calif is silly, now. There's a whole underground industry for ammo/reloading supplies and the like, now.
Last month I found a rifle store down South in Massachusetts that had a sale on accessories for my rifle, getting there we passed by a Cabelas that my Dw wanted to stop at. We did and I found a lead melting pot, when I took it to the checkout we were stopped because state law requires that only Mass residents are allowed to buy lead or lead melting equipment, and even then you must fill out a form to go onto a state registry so they can track who has the ability to cast bullets.
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Old 10-09-2021, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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We keep cash on hand. Not necessarily for SHTF (although that's part of it), but its just nice to have on hand instead of running to the ATM as needed. In NJ, there are are a lot of cash only businesses (i.e. our local pizza place, bagel shop, my barber are all cash only).

This thread reminds me of an incident at ATL airport a few years back. I was buying a newspaper and bottle of water from a newsstand, got in line (long line) and realized the line was long because their credit card machine was down. No one had cash and they were waiting for the card terminal to reset. I walked to the kiosk, paid in cash and walked out.
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Old 10-09-2021, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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In one town near us, they have no internet in that town. But they do have a gas station [which is something that my township is lacking] the gas station can not accept any credit cards. All transactions are cash-only. It does my heart good to see that in operation in 2021.

It is not related to SHTF this is just normal everyday life, in rural Maine. Not every town has grid power or phone lines. Fortunately, they do have pavement.

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