Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Education > Teaching
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-30-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
8,826 posts, read 15,382,438 times
Reputation: 4533

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by fivenine View Post
Kentucky teachers in many districts this morning all called in sick to protest the new bill that the governor is expected to sign. Kentucky is very close to having a full-blown teacher strike and it could get nasty, because I think KY's governor will attempt to use any anger against any striking to support an all or nearly-all charter school agenda. Kentucky is the next state to watch.
I attended an event earlier this week during which we heard from local WV teacher and support staff union leaders. Oklahoma, Arizona and Kentucky were all part of the discussion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-30-2018, 12:26 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
20,141 posts, read 16,274,128 times
Reputation: 28408
Kentucky is in a different situation than West Virginia or Oklahoma. When adjusted for cost-of-living Kentucky is ranked 9th best in teacher pay while Oklahoma ranks 34th and West Virginia ranks 47th. This means teachers are not currently feeling the pain. For Kentucky the battle is about retirement. Kentucky is one of 15 states that elected to exempt itself from Social Security, the state retiree health plan is pretty dang sweet, it’s retirement system does not have enough funds, and unlike the federal government they can’t just print more money for themselves. It is a disaster that has been brewing for decades, it is simply not substainable to have people retiring at 55 at 75% of their pay and cheap, very comprehensive health insurance plans.

I know they had their sick out today, but it barely even whimpered in the western or southern ends of the state, and the Northern Kentucky area barely blinked. Lexington, Louisville, their bedroom counties, and Eastern Kentucky are the areas that closed schools. Regardless, they will have trouble sustaining the momentum considering the bill snuck in yesterday, and it was snuck in, only impacted new hires. The bill established some sort of hybrid system for anyone hired starting this school year, the particulars of which I have not read. If they move towards allowing new hires to be covered by Social Security (which they should be forced to seeing as how they have proved they can’t be trusted to self fund) they will only be doing what multiple states have done over the last couple of decades. This means their argument that teachers will not stay in Kentucky to work isn’t going to be true.
__________________
When I post in bold red that is moderator action and, per the TOS, can only be discussed through Direct Message.Moderator - Diabetes and Kentucky (including Lexington & Louisville)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-30-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
8,826 posts, read 15,382,438 times
Reputation: 4533
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldhag1 View Post
Kentucky is in a different situation than West Virginia or Oklahoma. When adjusted for cost-of-living Kentucky is ranked 9th best in teacher pay while Oklahoma ranks 34th and West Virginia ranks 47th. This means teachers are not currently feeling the pain. For Kentucky the battle is about retirement. Kentucky is one of 15 states that elected to exempt itself from Social Security, the state retiree health plan is pretty dang sweet, it’s retirement system does not have enough funds, and unlike the federal government they can’t just print more money for themselves. It is a disaster that has been brewing for decades, it is simply not substainable to have people retiring at 55 at 75% of their pay and cheap, very comprehensive health insurance plans.

I know they had their sick out today, but it barely even whimpered in the western or southern ends of the state, and the Northern Kentucky area barely blinked. Lexington, Louisville, their bedroom counties, and Eastern Kentucky are the areas that closed schools. Regardless, they will have trouble sustaining the momentum considering the bill snuck in yesterday, and it was snuck in, only impacted new hires. The bill established some sort of hybrid system for anyone hired starting this school year, the particulars of which I have not read. If they move towards allowing new hires to be covered by Social Security (which they should be forced to seeing as how they have proved they can’t be trusted to self fund) they will only be doing what multiple states have done over the last couple of decades. This means their argument that teachers will not stay in Kentucky to work isn’t going to be true.
The part in bold is a problem as I understand it. Whether or not it is good for the retirement system in the long run, they won't win over people or gain their trust by sneaking policy into a bill on sewage.

The last I read "over 20" of the districts closed today. That's a small portion of the total. Oklahoma looks to be much more unified heading into next week.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-01-2018, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
8,826 posts, read 15,382,438 times
Reputation: 4533
Oklahoma seems to be a mess.

https://www.economist.com/news/unite...k-whats-matter
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Education > Teaching

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:31 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top