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Old 03-21-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Does it just cost too much to put cameras in classrooms? That would solve a lot of problems.


There are parents in my child's school that are purely crazy. I don't know how teachers deal with them. I used to know a young man with mental disabilities. He was confronted at work about stealing (he was likely guilty) and because it upset him so much, he told his dad that his employer had pointed a gun at him during the confrontation, and threatened him with it. I knew the employer and it was just crazy, the guy never pointed a gun at him and there were no guns there. There were also witnesses to this that said he never pulled a gun. Nonetheless, he had to answer to the police about it. This was before it was common to have cameras everywhere.
I really don't know why they don't. I tried but couldn't get permission to put one in my own classroom at the school I just left. Their concerns were for privacy with my having control of what the camera captured. If the school put them in then they would control the content.

I think there is a fear that admins would abuse the footage by looking for anything they don't like to build a case against a teacher.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I was a special needs educational assistant from 2000-2004 in a working-to-middle class community, and I never even heard of anything even close to such things happening in my school as I have read in this thread! .
You never heard of people making false accusations? That defies credibility.
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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You never heard of people making false accusations? That defies credibility.
I said, "at my school".
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I said, "at my school".
These things could have gone on at your school without you knowing about it.


But your school is just one of many thousands of schools.
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Old 03-23-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I was teaching in a psychiatric hospital when a student made allegations against me-I was out nearly 7 months with pay.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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For some reason today, administrators side with kids over teachers these days.
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It appears that administrators tend to side more with parents and students even if it is not warranted (such as the child has a documented history of lying or the parents are extremely overprotective),
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And they wonder why they can't keep teachers. The number who have quit in the last year is insane but admins don't seem to think they're doing anything wrong.






Guys, one word: LAWSUIT. You know how people are nowadays. Administrators, districts etc. are afraid of being sued and the resulting bad PR so they give in, and the teacher gets thrown under the proverbial bus. The parent and the student have administration over a barrel.

How little things have changed since I was in school 20 years ago.


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Does it just cost too much to put cameras in classrooms? That would solve a lot of problems.





It can.

Besides the SURVEILLANCE (not "security", the word is "surveillance") cameras themselves you have to factor in the infrastructure (cabling), monitoring facilities (room somewhere in the building full of TV sets, switches, DVRs and such), maintenence and spares, plus you have to pay somebody hourly to monitor the system. In a little town school with maybe only a dozen or so classrooms it may only be a few hundred dollars but in a large urban high school campus with up to almost a hundred rooms, a mile of hallways plus portables (like mine was) it can get prohibitively expensive. Big department stores and office buildings can afford dozens and dozens of cameras and the supporting infrastructure because they have money to buy them.

Most school districts barely get enough funding to afford typing paper.
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Old 03-23-2018, 04:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I am just very thankful that so many wonderful people continue to do such necessary work, and I am just aghast that the great majority of parents and other people don't appreciate teachers more.
That's because you value education. Many, many people do not. Even though the facts state that the educated make more money, are healthier, and happier. Don't try to tell that to someone that is not educated, they'll just cry fake news or that statistics can be manipulated. Half of the people in this world have below average intelligence. Not much you can do to convince them that education is important.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I was a special needs educational assistant from 2000-2004 in a working-to-middle class community, and I never even heard of anything even close to such things happening in my school as I have read in this thread! I am wondering if things have gotten so bad in less than 20 years, or if I was just lucky.
You're just lucky.

Both I, one of my parents, and my now-husband were all working in the field during this time, and all of us know of cautionary tales from our respective schools.
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Guys, one word: LAWSUIT. You know how people are nowadays.

Most school districts barely get enough funding to afford typing paper.



Haven't heard of this product in 2-3 decades. LOL!

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Old 03-24-2018, 04:56 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Ttark View Post
Guys, one word: LAWSUIT. You know how people are nowadays.

Most school districts barely get enough funding to afford typing paper.



Haven't heard of this product in 2-3 decades. LOL!
Interchangeable with copy paper.

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