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Assuming Covid is around for at least the next 12 months, I’m wondering what solutions teachers would like to see to achieve the goals of educating kids (without further disadvantaging kids whose parents may not have the money or education to teach their kid and provide internet access) and allowing the parents of elementary kids to continue to work. I understand that school is not a daycare, but the fact that kids have been required to be in school means that society is set up so that children are at school. So if school is not open, the kids will be in daycare-type situations which just shifts the risks to low paid employees instead of teachers. Of course In daycare, the kids won’t be educated.
I saw an article in the New York Times talking about how outdoor education was used during previous TB outbreaks in New York City, even in the dead of winter. I’m sure something like this could be done for at least 6 months of the year in many states including the ones with severe heat/cold. Probably longer In most states.
Unfortunately, and I'm speaking as a retired teacher (one who was trained as an online instructor), there likely is no solution.
It will never be said out loud, at least not right now, but I think school systems, and the general public, are going to have to concede that there are going to be kids, especially older ones in high school, who are just going to be left behind. When 35% (nationally, it touched 90% in some school districts) of students didn't sign in once for the online continuation of education this past Spring what makes anyone think starting the year 100% online is going to be successful and kids are going to magically be successful and learn. Study after study shows that online is only effective for a very small subset of very motivated students in any event (<5%).
Younger kids will be behind but can be caught up. But, so many kids enter school now years (yes, years) behind where they should be as 5 year olds (not knowing their real name, having a vocabulary package of 1000 words instead of 4000+, some are still in diapers, etc.) it is going to be extremely time consuming and difficult.
are there online courses available to replace school? i feel like the teachers tried but what was offered for educating our children the 2nd half of last year wasnt anywhere near a good education experience. once we are going online, i dont see why we cant use solutions outside of the district that may be more comprehensive for home education.
Unfortunately, and I'm speaking as a retired teacher (one who was trained as an online instructor), there likely is no solution.
It will never be said out loud, at least not right now, but I think school systems, and the general public, are going to have to concede that there are going to be kids, especially older ones in high school, who are just going to be left behind. When 35% (nationally, it touched 90% in some school districts) of students didn't sign in once for the online continuation of education this past Spring what makes anyone think starting the year 100% online is going to be successful and kids are going to magically be successful and learn. Study after study shows that online is only effective for a very small subset of very motivated students in any event (<5%).
Younger kids will be behind but can be caught up. But, so many kids enter school now years (yes, years) behind where they should be as 5 year olds (not knowing their real name, having a vocabulary package of 1000 words instead of 4000+, some are still in diapers, etc.) it is going to be extremely time consuming and difficult.
Cite sources for the all the statistics you listed..
I know that you're a puppy dog, unicorn and rainbow glass half full kind of person but realism has to intrude. Online education is only effective for a very small number of K-12 students (one presumes post-high school students are more motivated) and will not replace in person school anytime soon. That is, not unless we as a society are willing to write off 90% of kids as far as education goes.
are there online courses available to replace school? i feel like the teachers tried but what was offered for educating our children the 2nd half of last year wasnt anywhere near a good education experience. once we are going online, i dont see why we cant use solutions outside of the district that may be more comprehensive for home education.
Some states have it. Florida has Florida Virtual School, which is the online version of the Florida public school system. The teachers hired are more experienced, teach only in the virtual school, and have a curriculum design specifically for virtual school. I have two friends who teach for FLVS and it is a time consuming job because they are “on call” most of the day for students outside of traditional hours that most classroom-based teachers talk to students. Previously, in order to be eligible, kids had to enroll in a traditional classroom for a year and then they could enroll in FLVS full time or just take a few classes. Some might do it for enrichment because there is a class they want to take that is not available at their own school or they might do it as a charter option (a friend’s son did this route and was successful), or they might do it at home if being in a traditional classroom does not work.
I know that you're a puppy dog, unicorn and rainbow glass half full kind of person but realism has to intrude. Online education is only effective for a very small number of K-12 students (one presumes post-high school students are more motivated) and will not replace in person school anytime soon. That is, not unless we as a society are willing to write off 90% of kids as far as education goes.
I still don't see some of the figures you listed. If you're going to throw around figures, you need to be able to back them up. All I'll say about you is I'm glad my kids were never in your class..
1. Have your mouth and nose covered.
2. have your eyes covered with snug goggles
3. wash your hands before touching your eyes or nose or mouth or food.
4. you CAN NOT acquire it through skin, anywhere, period.
I still don't see some of the figures you listed. If you're going to throw around figures, you need to be able to back them up. All I'll say about you is I'm glad my kids were never in your class..
Don't care. If they have your personality I'm glad too. You don't pay attention and want to argue about everything whether you know anything about it or not.
All you have is what you "think".
If you want to question my numbers then do the research to contradict them.
Some states have it. Florida has Florida Virtual School, which is the online version of the Florida public school system. The teachers hired are more experienced, teach only in the virtual school, and have a curriculum design specifically for virtual school. I have two friends who teach for FLVS and it is a time consuming job because they are “on call” most of the day for students outside of traditional hours that most classroom-based teachers talk to students. Previously, in order to be eligible, kids had to enroll in a traditional classroom for a year and then they could enroll in FLVS full time or just take a few classes. Some might do it for enrichment because there is a class they want to take that is not available at their own school or they might do it as a charter option (a friend’s son did this route and was successful), or they might do it at home if being in a traditional classroom does not work.
i would like that to be offered. im not really sure if its appropriate to keep taking my property taxes to pay for an inferior educational product. there is plenty of money there for an alternative solution.
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