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Old 04-14-2010, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Cedar Park, TX
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That's messed up. Public urination being a sex crime, that is. I mean if it's in a well populated area it might be called public indecency, sure. But sex crime? Really shouldn't be, because, well, it's not.
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:04 AM
 
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Law applies in Nevada as well...personally I don't know of many people who urinate it public. I associate that with someone with NO CLASS!
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:25 AM
 
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It really depends on where you were peeing. If you were peeing facing a busy intersection during the day, that will land you public indecency and public urination. If you are peeing next to your car at night by yourself, that will land you public urination which is NOT a serious crime. It is similiar to a traffic ticket.
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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Urination is not sex. To have public urination listed as a sex crime requiring registration as a sex offender is absolutely ridiculous.

Imagine this scenario... In 2000, a college student who had too much to drink is 'caught' peeing behind his frat house while under the cover of bushes when the line to the bathrooms were too long for him to hold it. Nobody witnessed this act. Nobody saw him urinate. When walking back to the front door, he is questioned by a passing officer. Offender stated exactly what he did and was issued a ticket. Twenty years later, as a family man raising 2 children in a different state, a neighbor decides to open a daycare center out of her home. Background checks are done in the neighborhood and the man who peed in the woods behind his frathouse shows up as a sex offender. A judge sees the petition and ORDERS this man to sell his home move his family including two young children into a neighborhood of sex offenders.

This is not a stretch of the imagination, this is a true story. If Bill Clinton can argue that getting his willie sucked is not sex, then how is urination a sexual offense?
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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It really depends on where you were peeing. If you were peeing facing a busy intersection during the day, that will land you public indecency and public urination. If you are peeing next to your car at night by yourself, that will land you public urination which is NOT a serious crime. It is similiar to a traffic ticket.
Unfortunately this is not accurate.
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:16 AM
 
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You can crap in someones yard as a postman and still keep your job, I couldnt believe this. Some union contract eh?

Mailman suspended for defecating in yard on route - US news - Weird news - msnbc.com

The postal worker was never fired, and issued a new route.
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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For crying out loud, what is wrong with some of these states? Urinating in public is disgusting, it can be punished as public indecency but to call it a sex crime is way over the top and about as stupid as I've heard coming out of California...which is saying a lot.

As someone mentioned earlier, it is NOT the same thing as molesting or raping a child or an adult. Not even close.

The problem with this is, just like the word, "abuse", when it's overused for things that are not "abuse", or in this case, an actual crime involving SEX, eventually "sex offender" will not have the same punch behind it.

Example, before everyone started throwing the word, "abuse" around, when someone said the child suffered from abuse, you can be sure that child went through something horrific. Now "abuse" can mean someone spanked their child. Sorry, no, NOT the same thing.

To have someone arrested as a sex offender because they urinated in public, something that will affect them the rest of their lives, something that will carry a stigma, is reprehensible.

Give them the indecency violation and be done with it. If they want it to be tougher and mean more, then raise the price on that ticket.

What is interesting to me, I lived in Germany for three years. For males, as long as their back was to "traffic" or public, they were allowed to urinate in public. Again, I find it gross but that's just me...I'm sure they must be laughing at the state of CA right now...the ones who love to apologize to the Europeans for being so American...yet they come up with this stupid law.

(Disclaimer: This is not to say that all those who live in California are this ridiculous...I'm actually mocking the law makers...and senators and representatives and mayors and governors...and some of the people, not all.)
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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For crying out loud, what is wrong with some of these states? Urinating in public is disgusting, it can be punished as public indecency but to call it a sex crime is way over the top and about as stupid as I've heard coming out of California...which is saying a lot.
Stupid in cali is saving the gold fish, yet they have a sushi bar on every corner.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:26 AM
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For crying out loud, what is wrong with some of these states? Urinating in public is disgusting, it can be punished as public indecency but to call it a sex crime is way over the top and about as stupid as I've heard coming out of California...which is saying a lot.

As someone mentioned earlier, it is NOT the same thing as molesting or raping a child or an adult. Not even close.

The problem with this is, just like the word, "abuse", when it's overused for things that are not "abuse", or in this case, an actual crime involving SEX, eventually "sex offender" will not have the same punch behind it.

Example, before everyone started throwing the word, "abuse" around, when someone said the child suffered from abuse, you can be sure that child went through something horrific. Now "abuse" can mean someone spanked their child. Sorry, no, NOT the same thing.

To have someone arrested as a sex offender because they urinated in public, something that will affect them the rest of their lives, something that will carry a stigma, is reprehensible.

Give them the indecency violation and be done with it. If they want it to be tougher and mean more, then raise the price on that ticket.

What is interesting to me, I lived in Germany for three years. For males, as long as their back was to "traffic" or public, they were allowed to urinate in public. Again, I find it gross but that's just me...I'm sure they must be laughing at the state of CA right now...the ones who love to apologize to the Europeans for being so American...yet they come up with this stupid law.

(Disclaimer: This is not to say that all those who live in California are this ridiculous...I'm actually mocking the law makers...and senators and representatives and mayors and governors...and some of the people, not all.)
Nice rant but has it occurred to you that there is no California statute against public urination outside?
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: California
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Urination is not sex. To have public urination listed as a sex crime requiring registration as a sex offender is absolutely ridiculous.

Imagine this scenario... In 2000, a college student who had too much to drink is 'caught' peeing behind his frat house while under the cover of bushes when the line to the bathrooms were too long for him to hold it. Nobody witnessed this act. Nobody saw him urinate. When walking back to the front door, he is questioned by a passing officer. Offender stated exactly what he did and was issued a ticket. Twenty years later, as a family man raising 2 children in a different state, a neighbor decides to open a daycare center out of her home. Background checks are done in the neighborhood and the man who peed in the woods behind his frathouse shows up as a sex offender. A judge sees the petition and ORDERS this man to sell his home move his family including two young children into a neighborhood of sex offenders.

This is not a stretch of the imagination, this is a true story. If Bill Clinton can argue that getting his willie sucked is not sex, then how is urination a sexual offense?
True story? Wouln't that make it the year 2020?
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