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1. This is American cities only. NO OTHER COMPARISONS if it isn't within the boundaries of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Bringing other cities that are not American into this discussion could bring about (hopefully) Moderator intervention. If the mod doesn't intervene, be prepared to receive many posts that tell you to, "Take a walk", "Pound salt", "Here's a quarter... call someone who cares"... Don't say you weren't warned, because you were.
2. This thread is not about population numbers, or density numbers, or anything like that. This is about legally definied cities.
3. A city is a "City". If the local government says it's a city, then it is a city up for discussion in this thread. Villages, towns and hamlets are not up for discussion. If a place has one more person within the limits of the city than local law dictates (to be a city), IT IS A CITY. If a place has one less person than what is needed to be considered a "city" by the local government, IT IS NOT A CITY.
I think I covered it all.
Maybe I didn't. But that's what the future is for, right?
This is a thread about which cities are the most "city".
What do you expect out of a city?
What city has the most "city-like" features?
So, considering what I laid down, what are the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world cities in America? Or to make it more relevant to this particular forum, which cities are the best planned "Urban(ly)"?
And to help ranking, you can rank cities from 1-3 with individual tiers, like this:
1. A. City
B. City
C. City
2. A. City
B. City
C. City
3. A. City
B. City
C. City
Honestly, It seems like most cities used to be 2nd world, and were more 3rd world in the later half of the 20th century. However, I would say now that many cities are becoming more first world.
I'm trying to figure out what this thread means? Third world cities?! If you just mean most urban there's a rather long thread on that on the forum. But this thread seems like an invitation to bash cities.
Second World was the Communist Bloc, there's quite a few of those around; the People's Republic of Reston (Virginia), the People's Republic of Berkeley (California), etc. :-)
Third world was the "developing" nations. There really aren't any of those, even by analogy. The cities most people compare to the third world (Detroit, Camden, Flint, Gary, etc) have all fallen from great heights, not been left behind.
1. This is American cities only. NO OTHER COMPARISONS if it isn't within the boundaries of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Bringing other cities that are not American into this discussion could bring about (hopefully) Moderator intervention. If the mod doesn't intervene, be prepared to receive many posts that tell you to, "Take a walk", "Pound salt", "Here's a quarter... call someone who cares"... Don't say you weren't warned, because you were.
Honestly, It seems like most cities used to be 2nd world, and were more 3rd world in the later half of the 20th century. However, I would say now that many cities are becoming more first world.
1st world
NYC
Boston
San Francisco
2nd world
Chicago
Los Angeles
Miami
3rd world
Detroit
St Louis
Buffalo
I thought something like this would come up, but I just wanted to see if people caught my drift before spelling it out to a "T".
In terms of Urban Planning, and being a city, how is Chicago 2nd World?
In terms of Urban Planning, and being a city, how is Detroit, St. Louis and Buffalo 3rd World?
Is Carmel, Indiana a "better" city than Detroit, St. Louis or Buffalo, in terms of Urban Planning, and being a city?
Is Santa Fe, New Mexico a "better" city than Detroit, St. Louis or Buffalo in terms of Urban Planning, and being a city?
Is Zionsville, Indiana a "better" city than Detroit, St. Louis or Buffalo in terms of Urban Planning, and being a city?
Is De Queen, Arkansas a "better" city than Detroit, St. Louis or Buffalo in terms of Urban Planning, and being a city?
Come on.
I don't think major cities in America (unless they're really bad) go below the "2nd World" label.
I'm trying to figure out what this thread means? Third world cities?! If you just mean most urban there's a rather long thread on that on the forum. But this thread seems like an invitation to bash cities.
I'm not promoting bashing. But I am looking for a more objective view on cities... ALL OF THEM.
That thread you linked to is sort of what I'm doing, but I'm expanding it, and I am looking for more honest appraisals of the objective kind.
Evanston, Illinois has a train line running through it (Purple Line, CTA), and the farthest anyone could live from that line is just under 2 miles. And there are buses, and walkability, and density, etc.
Compared to Naperville, Illinois... well... You have the PACE bus system.
That's the difference. That's the reason for this thread.
All cities are not "created equal".
Cambridge, MA is more city, more urban, than Indianapolis, IN (my hometown), is it not? Evanston, IL is more urban than Indianapolis, IN, is it not?
I may have picked a "bad term" when describing cities in this country (using the 'World' reference)... but I didn't feel like adding another "Tier" thread to the forum, and decided to change it up.
So Sacramento is, in terms of Urban Planning, more "urban" than" San Francisco?
More "urban" than L.A.?
More "urban" than Seattle?
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