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Was high rise apartments a Europe thing that spread to Asia and other countries after? What city planner promoted high rise apartments? I hear in East Europe there are lots of high rise apartments but less common in west Europe.
I also hear France has more high rise apartment now it seems but is not that common in the UK. But I hear city planner promoted high rise apartments over the older idea of living above the store being really bad thing.
The UK was very heavy into row houses and town houses that Canada inspired from the UK and started building it there but less common in the US out side of New York and Philly.
The US style of 2 to 6 story apartments for low income in some places never caught on in Canada for some strange reason. No idea what city planners they where. It could be the US government was subsidizing the community of low income in more suburb framework and it was cheaper for the Canadian government to put them in a high rise apartments when it came to sewages, drainage, road maintenance, water and power so on.
I hear in case of USSR and China people where dirt poor and it was cheaper for the government to house them in an apartment than a house. No idea why they did not build low or mid rise apartments and opt to go with high rise apartments.
But high rise apartments seem to be Europe or Asia thing and no idea what country it came from first and who promoted it.
The US promoted low rise apartments in some areas 2 to 6 story apartments but some mid rise 6 to 10 story apartments in Canada in the 50s that city planners are no longer looking at them for inspiration and going with high rise over mid rise or low rise apartments or condos like in Canada. I hear in US is building more low and mid rise apartments in more urban areas of the city now.
But I don’t know where high rise apartments came from and at the time what city planners promoted it like did it started in France or the USSR than spread to other countries after?
WHY is it the UK for the most part said no to high rise apartments unlike France or the USSR?
Was high rise apartments a Europe thing that spread to Asia and other countries after? What city planner promoted high rise apartments? I hear in East Europe there are lots of high rise apartments but less common in west Europe.
I also hear France has more high rise apartment now it seems but is not that common in the UK. But I hear city planner promoted high rise apartments over the older idea of living above the store being really bad thing.
The UK was very heavy into row houses and town houses that Canada inspired from the UK and started building it there but less common in the US out side of New York and Philly.
The US style of 2 to 6 story apartments for low income in some places never caught on in Canada for some strange reason. No idea what city planners they where. It could be the US government was subsidizing the community of low income in more suburb framework and it was cheaper for the Canadian government to put them in a high rise apartments when it came to sewages, drainage, road maintenance, water and power so on.
I hear in case of USSR and China people where dirt poor and it was cheaper for the government to house them in an apartment than a house. No idea why they did not build low or mid rise apartments and opt to go with high rise apartments.
But high rise apartments seem to be Europe or Asia thing and no idea what country it came from first and who promoted it.
The US promoted low rise apartments in some areas 2 to 6 story apartments but some mid rise 6 to 10 story apartments in Canada in the 50s that city planners are no longer looking at them for inspiration and going with high rise over mid rise or low rise apartments or condos like in Canada. I hear in US is building more low and mid rise apartments in more urban areas of the city now.
But I don’t know where high rise apartments came from and at the time what city planners promoted it like did it started in France or the USSR than spread to other countries after?
WHY is it the UK for the most part said no to high rise apartments unlike France or the USSR?
The first modern skyscraper built with a steel frame was built in Chicago. US cities like NYC and Chicago already had high rise apartment buildings long before any was built in Europe. And there are still many high rise apartment buildings all over the US today. In western Europe high rise apartment buildings are rather the exception than the norm today.
Examples of early high rise apartment complexes =>
StuyTown in NYC:
Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village as seen from the air over the East River looking north.
Credit: Alec Jordan
Was it the huge immigration at the time to New York and Chicago may be even Boston at time as to why they built so dense? At the time did city planners plan how city will look in 50 or 100 years in the future with future growth and so built dense. Where city planners at time oppose to car centric cities and plan the city building being very dense and urban?
Why where New York, Chicago may be even Boston and the rust belt cities more dense and urban than the south, midwest and west coast that was more suburb like?
Was it the huge immigration at the time to New York and Chicago may be even Boston at time as to why they built so dense? At the time did city planners plan how city will look in 50 or 100 years in the future with future growth and so built dense. Where city planners at time oppose to car centric cities and plan the city building being very dense and urban?
Why where New York, Chicago may be even Boston and the rust belt cities more dense and urban than the south, Midwest and west coast that was more suburb like?
New York and Boston are very old cities and the Northern Part of the U.S. was more industrial and more populous from the 1776 till the late 20th Century. In fact over time industry has moved from the North to the south along with population.
The first modern skyscraper built with a steel frame was built in Chicago. US cities like NYC and Chicago already had high rise apartment buildings long before any was built in Europe. And there are still many high rise apartment buildings all over the US today. In western Europe high rise apartment buildings are rather the exception than the norm today.
Examples of early high rise apartment complexes =>
StuyTown in NYC:
Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village as seen from the air over the East River looking north.
Credit: Alec Jordan
In Europe high rises weren't really a thing before the 1960s - 1970s.
The difference between Stuyvesant Town/Peter Cooper Village and what came before it was one of scale more than anything else.
There's a high-rise development north of there called Tudor City that dates to 1926. At the same time, in Philadelphia's Germantown section, a developer was building a three-building complex called Alden Park Manor.
And, of course, individual high-rise apartment / co-operative buildings were rising for some years before 1926 in the United States, even if only in a few cities. Yet I can think of districts in both St. Louis and Kansas City that have high-rise apartment towers, including one in KC called The Walnuts that was a collection like Alden Park Manor and of similar architecture, that date to the 1920s.
New York and Boston are very old cities and the Northern Part of the U.S. was more industrial and more populous from the 1776 till the late 20th Century. In fact over time industry has moved from the North to the south along with population.
The rust belt cities seem to have own kinda look.
But I still don’t know where high rise buildings got started in what city and who prompted it. I don’t think Europe is copying New York style as New York is kinda different. And New York seems to have every thing low, medium and high rise. Even the way the building looks different there than Europe.
You don’t get apartments looking like this in Europe or Canada.
But I still don’t know where high rise buildings got started in what city and who prompted it. I don’t think Europe is copying New York style as New York is kinda different. And New York seems to have every thing low, medium and high rise. Even the way the building looks different there than Europe.
You don’t get apartments looking like this in Europe or Canada.
If you're talking about "skyscrapers" in general, the first steel skeleton-frame high-rise building in the world was the Home Insurance Company Building in Chicago, built in 1885 and since demolished.
I have this vague recollection that the first tall (more than five stories) apartment building in Boston was referred to as "French flats." Yet I don't associate central Paris with high-rise buildings. I do, however, associate the city with multistory apartment buildings, period, dating to the era of Baron Haussman and his boulevards (an effort to make it easier to defend the city against uprisings like the 1871 Paris Commune). Multi-unit residential buildings, of any height, were not that common in the US in the 1870s, so it seems to me that calling the first ones "French flats" probably makes sense.
If you're talking about "skyscrapers" in general, the first steel skeleton-frame high-rise building in the world was the Home Insurance Company Building in Chicago, built in 1885 and since demolished.
I have this vague recollection that the first tall (more than five stories) apartment building in Boston was referred to as "French flats." Yet I don't associate central Paris with high-rise buildings. I do, however, associate the city with multistory apartment buildings, period, dating to the era of Baron Haussman and his boulevards (an effort to make it easier to defend the city against uprisings like the 1871 Paris Commune). Multi-unit residential buildings, of any height, were not that common in the US in the 1870s, so it seems to me that calling the first ones "French flats" probably makes sense.
But it seems the US buildings of apartments buildings in US are inspired by US planners where as Europe and Asia are inspired by Europe planners. Unless France or the USSR looked at New York for inspiration than modified it with their own twist different than New York and started building it in the communist countries and other countries copied it.
The US also has more taping of density areas and skyline look unlike communist countries. It just looks vey so out of place of tower block stuck in low density area of single story houses. As most city planning schools tech of taping of the density areas of like this is a high density area of city and this is a medium density area of city and this is a low density area of city and appropriate height per density area be it low, medium or high density to not offset strange looking out of place look. And growing of switch to low to high or high to low density.And planners that don’t do that the built environment looks out place and strange. Many US cities just look nicer but many suburbs in south or midwest just have terrible sprawl where they need more medium density to cut down on the sprawl.
I remember reading on cyburbia forum that lot of cities in US have hight ordinance in areas. And city zoning to being stricter.
But not sure who marketed and promoted tower block because there it not uncommon to find high rise building build in next to houses.
In Canada lot of high rise tower blocks in the suburbs have mall and park next it with low density houses. No idea where they look for inspiration.
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